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Steve: That would certainly be an interesting addition to the collection.
Unfortunately, gun collecting in Germany is not that easy. You have to obtain a permit beforehand and specify the collective topic exactly. To do this, an expert opinion on the cultural-historical significance of the collection must be drawn up. If you want to buy something outside of this topic, you have to apply again.
steff said
Steve: That would certainly be an interesting addition to the collection.Unfortunately, gun collecting in Germany is not that easy. You have to obtain a permit beforehand and specify the collective topic exactly. To do this, an expert opinion on the cultural-historical significance of the collection must be drawn up. If you want to buy something outside of this topic, you have to apply again.
Wow – those are some interesting rules. It’s a good reminder of how fortunate we are here in the U.S. It sounds like you have be quite specific in your permit application. From what you are stating, it sounds like it would be too broad to specify, “lever action rifles manufactured by Winchester and it’s major competitors from 1866 to 1945?
steff said
Steve: That would certainly be an interesting addition to the collection.Unfortunately, gun collecting in Germany is not that easy. You have to obtain a permit beforehand and specify the collective topic exactly. To do this, an expert opinion on the cultural-historical significance of the collection must be drawn up. If you want to buy something outside of this topic, you have to apply again.
Sounds like you could incorporate rifles like the 1878 Long Range Burgess and Whitney-Kennedy Rifles into your collection since Winchester bought out Whitney about 1886.
James
Steve: It forces you to structure your collection, which is not always a bad thing. You have to deal with it beforehand and make a list of the models you want to collect. this list can include several hundred weapons. I know collectors of military weapons that have 2,000 weapons.
“Lever action rifles manufactured by Winchester and it’s major competitors from 1866 to 1945” would be approved without problems. My approval is for “Long guns made by Winchester and Marlin up to 1945”. At the moment I am trying to extend my license to “up to 1981”.
I also have one with the topic “Self-loading pistols with the locking system by J.M. Browning and their further development until the year of construction 1955”.
James: That’s right. Ballards would also fit because they were bought up by Marlin. Unfortunately, such specimens are very difficult to get in Europe. I’m having trouble getting Winchester’s rimfire rifles, let alone the Marlin’s.
Stefan
Stefan, that’s good to know. Unfortunately, I have sold the only two long range Burgess rifles that I owned, but still have two Whitney-Kennedy rifles. Still have quite a few Winchester .22’s.
James
steff said
Steve: It forces you to structure your collection, which is not always a bad thing. You have to deal with it beforehand and make a list of the models you want to collect. this list can include several hundred weapons. I know collectors of military weapons that have 2,000 weapons.“Lever action rifles manufactured by Winchester and it’s major competitors from 1866 to 1945” would be approved without problems. My approval is for “Long guns made by Winchester and Marlin up to 1945”. At the moment I am trying to extend my license to “up to 1981”.
I also have one with the topic “Self-loading pistols with the locking system by J.M. Browning and their further development until the year of construction 1955”.
James: That’s right. Ballards would also fit because they were bought up by Marlin. Unfortunately, such specimens are very difficult to get in Europe. I’m having trouble getting Winchester’s rimfire rifles, let alone the Marlin’s.
Stefan
Stefan –
I can see the benefit in what you said – I might have done better to have, “focused” my collection decades ago. I recall many many years ago, a friend said – why don’t you just collect Winchester M1886’s? (he knew they were my favorite). I kind of wish I had….
James: So far I have from the 22s the M1890, M1903, M1906, M02A, M61, M62A, M67, M68, M69A and M74. Still missing all others.
I still need the lever action Models M1885, M71, M53 and M65. None of these have been offered to me in the past 10 years.
Stefan
steff said
James: So far I have from the 22s the M1890, M1903, M1906, M02A, M61, M62A, M67, M68, M69A and M74. Still missing all others.
I still need the lever action Models M1885, M71, M53 and M65. None of these have been offered to me in the past 10 years.Stefan
Stefan, you can send me a PM should you want me to let you know when I begin selling my collection.
James
Nice to see the reasoning behind these collections. Alot of .22’s. Most collections are formed on passed memories or good times 🙂
The first .22 I bought with my own money in my youth was a Winchester. Bought it new in the box. Unfortunately, I do not have fond memories. That’s because it was a piece of garbage. It was a Winchester M270 slide action. It was a jammer. Jammed all the time. Back then, I really wasn’t familiar with the concept that if you bought something with a problem, there might be recourse. Anyway, it wasn’t until later that I learned that Winchester made some very nice .22’s, but the vintage was critical. I have a M62A .22 short and a M62 and they function flawlessly 
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