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August 24, 2022 - 3:32 pm
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94-PG-003.JPGImage EnlargerI believe I have an unusual 94 carbine.  It is the only one I have ever encountered in this configuration.  Serial #1129291 c.1937.  Has            anyone else encountered a similar carbine from this time period??

                          Thanks for any information you can provide.  RDB

 

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Rodger,

Yes I have, but they are rare.  Your Carbine is 1 of 7 that I have encountered, and it is the earliest S/N found thus far.

Winchester never offered or cataloged a pistol gripped Model 94 Carbine after 1931, but that did not stop a very small number of people from ordering one.  Your Carbine is identical to a Model 64 20-inch rifle with the exception of the full length magazine tube.

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I love pistol grip carbines.  Thanks for posting Roger.  It is quite interesting.

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Thank you Bert.  I am always intrigued by the unusual.  Seems like this is one of my better choices.  Once in awhile I score a good one.  Wink  RDB

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Nice looking rifle. Love the pistol grip. I had thoughts of finding a scope drilled 64 amd swapping out butt stock and lower tang/lever to a pre 1950 carbine. I like the longer forend wood better personally. Yours is the genuine article. What premium would be placed on this rifle valuewise relative to a standard 94 carbine?

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Is there a way to prove the OP’s carbine is factory original? I am Not saying it is not! But I have the same configuration 94 with a 64 pistol grip stock that I am very sure was just made up outside the factory by a gunsmith. 

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I am not sure if I understand your question correctly or not.  Are referring to just switching the lower tang?  The tang and receiver may fit together but they will generally not appear to be matched together.  In my last photo you can see how lower tang and receiver almost appear to be one piece.  Is that our question?  RDB

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I’ve never disassembled an 1894.  How difficult is it to swap out a lower tang on an 1894?

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I have never removed a lower tang from a Model 94, 55 or a 64.  I have never found it necessary.  RDB

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I recall reading on this site quite a while back that Winchester did offer this configuration in one year.  I think it was 1948.  

I could be misrembering but it stuck in memory……might have been 1938

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It’s unusual, it’s a carbine, it has a PG and what appears to be a shotgun butt. Of course I like it!

 

 

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Does the inside tang area on the stock have a number stamped in the wood? If so does it match the number on the side of the lower tang?  RR

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deerhunter said
I’ve never disassembled an 1894.  How difficult is it to swap out a lower tang on an 1894?

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It takes just a few minutes with little effort.  Most lower tangs that have been swapped out normally dont have the right fit or blue wear to match the bottom side of the receiver. 

I was curious too if the wood was stamped with the assembly number, would most likely be under the buttplate.  Or in the upper tang inlet.

Neat carbine Roger

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No number stamped in the stock tang area or under the butt plate.  Only has “C 74 6” stamped on lower tang.  RDB

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Nice find Roger . I am envious

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