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I read about guns in unfired condition. How does one know if really unfired?
Aren’t they fired at the factory?
If someone shoots one round through it, how can that be determined?
Perhaps factory lubricant or sealant that I think I also have read about.
Pardon my ignorance but I am curious. And I sure don’t own any unfired collectibles myself.
-Mike
All guns get fired at the factory. They have to be proof tested and then they might get shot a few more times if they sight them in.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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So if someone shoots one round through their new rifle, how would someone else know if this gun is really unfired or not?
There was a post on here somewhere recently mentioning an unfired gun and shooting it would have reduced value significantly.
Im just wondering how would you know?
Mike
[email protected] said
So if someone shoots one round through their new rifle, how would someone else know if this gun is really unfired or not?There was a post on here somewhere recently mentioning an unfired gun and shooting it would have reduced value significantly.
Im just wondering how would you know?
Mike
I guess you missed the part about all Winchester firearms have been fired at least once, and for all of the rifles, they were fired multiple times to set the sights. There is no such thing as an “unfired” Winchester. Those that use that description when trying to sell a high condition gun are simply displaying their own ignorance. The correct way to list a New In Box (NIB) Winchester is “unfired since leaving the factory”. That is the preferred condition for all of the various Winchester Commemorative firearms.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Mike,
I think these sellers or owners who state unfired are implying it’s not been fired since being boxed at the factory & sold but like you’re saying, how would you know if one or two rounds were shot after it was recently purchased & cleaned & lubricated. You probably wouldn’t.
Commemoratives would be the only firearms that I might believe weren’t fired after purchase, but as Bob said they’ve all been test fired at the factory pre purchase unless, it was during the last couple days at the siege of Leningrad where time was of the essence & meant whether you would speak German in the future, test firing probably wasn’t a priority.
RickC
Thanks.
No, I didn’t miss the fired at the factory part.
You all confirmed what I suspected and that is that the unfired rifle description is a relative descriptive term. Unfired Winchesters don’t exist. And probably tough to tell if fired a time or two after leaving the factory.
And the information is always appreciated.
Mike
My friend Dan and I have been working on an article detailing function testing, test firing and targeting Winchesters for the Spring issue of the magazine. One reason I’ve been interested in this subject is because of what’s been mentioned already–the “unfired” old Winchester.
Bert H. said
The correct way to list a New In Box (NIB) Winchester is “unfired since leaving the factory”.
Bert
Even that would be difficult to prove! And since the exterior condition is what matters most, why should anyone care? Just another dealer’s gimmick.
Hi guys, (and Gals?)
The most accurate description would be, appears to be unfired after leaving the factory — as stated earlier, who would know if a few rounds were fired sometime in its life? Unfired is surely a seller’s gimmick.
B
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