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The Model 1876 and the .45-90
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Chuck,  I took cell phone photos and selected a side view and a view of the head.  Note in the latter the dimple in the middle.  Priming compound was supposed to be largely eliminated away from there plus a cork disk was placed in the head to assure no chain firing in the magazine tube.  The case is a two piece case as can be seen.  The cartridge was chambered in the Model 1868 Musket, serial number 18, which can be viewed in Houze’s book.  Until I got the cartridge, I was not sure of what it was really chambered for.  This cartridge is also sometimes known as the .47 OFW as the bullet measures at 0.465″ in diameter.

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Tim… you just proved the old idiom (or axiom) “you can’t teach an old dogs and new tricks” is False!  I am impressed!!

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Bert,  These photos would not satisfy Rob, tho!  Tim (or Fruit).Laugh

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Tim,

I know nothing about cartridges but I love to research.  Thanks for the images and documentation for this rare cartridge.

I am a bit confused though, your document references Winchester’s patent 60,841 dated Jan 1, 1867.  Here is that patent, it does not seem to be related to your cartridge.  Is there a typo on your spec sheet?

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Tim,

Nevermind, I found it.  Someone got a bit dyslexic on your spec sheet, the actual patent is 60814 (not 60841).

Thanks again for the cool info!

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Yeah, I also had to unscramble the index number to get the correct patent!  Forgot to mention that small detail!  Tim

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tim tomlinson said
Chuck,  I took cell phone photos and selected a side view and a view of the head.  Note in the latter the dimple in the middle.  Priming compound was supposed to be largely eliminated away from there plus a cork disk was placed in the head to assure no chain firing in the magazine tube.  The case is a two piece case as can be seen.  The cartridge was chambered in the Model 1868 Musket, serial number 18, which can be viewed in Houze’s book.  Until I got the cartridge, I was not sure of what it was really chambered for.  This cartridge is also sometimes known as the .47 OFW as the bullet measures at 0.465″ in diameter.

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Great stuff Tim. 

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Back in the late 60’s, I remember my Father had a Winchester 45-90. I only saw one cartridge for it, but I do remember it being a straight case, no shoulder. Back then I had no idea what that rifle was worth, but I do know it was in very good shape. When I was in the Navy, about 1967, while in California, I had my Mother ship that 45-90 to me, so I could buy a new Triumph 650 motorcycle. Believe me, I have regretted it ever since. I would love to have that rifle today. I shoot a Ruger #1 chambered in 300 H&H. Now that is a fine rifle as well.

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