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Chuck, I took cell phone photos and selected a side view and a view of the head. Note in the latter the dimple in the middle. Priming compound was supposed to be largely eliminated away from there plus a cork disk was placed in the head to assure no chain firing in the magazine tube. The case is a two piece case as can be seen. The cartridge was chambered in the Model 1868 Musket, serial number 18, which can be viewed in Houze’s book. Until I got the cartridge, I was not sure of what it was really chambered for. This cartridge is also sometimes known as the .47 OFW as the bullet measures at 0.465″ in diameter.
Tim
Tim… you just proved the old idiom (or axiom) “you can’t teach an old dogs and new tricks” is False! I am impressed!!
Bert – a.k.a Hanes
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Tim,
I know nothing about cartridges but I love to research. Thanks for the images and documentation for this rare cartridge.
I am a bit confused though, your document references Winchester’s patent 60,841 dated Jan 1, 1867. Here is that patent, it does not seem to be related to your cartridge. Is there a typo on your spec sheet?
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
Tim,
Nevermind, I found it. Someone got a bit dyslexic on your spec sheet, the actual patent is 60814 (not 60841).
Thanks again for the cool info!
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
Yeah, I also had to unscramble the index number to get the correct patent! Forgot to mention that small detail! Tim
tim tomlinson said
Chuck, I took cell phone photos and selected a side view and a view of the head. Note in the latter the dimple in the middle. Priming compound was supposed to be largely eliminated away from there plus a cork disk was placed in the head to assure no chain firing in the magazine tube. The case is a two piece case as can be seen. The cartridge was chambered in the Model 1868 Musket, serial number 18, which can be viewed in Houze’s book. Until I got the cartridge, I was not sure of what it was really chambered for. This cartridge is also sometimes known as the .47 OFW as the bullet measures at 0.465″ in diameter.Tim
Great stuff Tim.
Back in the late 60’s, I remember my Father had a Winchester 45-90. I only saw one cartridge for it, but I do remember it being a straight case, no shoulder. Back then I had no idea what that rifle was worth, but I do know it was in very good shape. When I was in the Navy, about 1967, while in California, I had my Mother ship that 45-90 to me, so I could buy a new Triumph 650 motorcycle. Believe me, I have regretted it ever since. I would love to have that rifle today. I shoot a Ruger #1 chambered in 300 H&H. Now that is a fine rifle as well.
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