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August 14, 2021
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Looks like they sold other 1866’s, is the market improving or did they have multiple bidding wars? Good luck on your quest, I don’t think this is the gun you’re looking for.
Mike
May 14, 2025
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Steven Gabrielli said
Thanks Steve that was fun to watch!
March 31, 2009
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Very cool video. I will never shoot a gun that beautiful but if I could afford one I’d shoot it.
April 1, 2005
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TR said
TXGunNut said
Looks like they sold other 1866’s, is the market improving
Mike
The market for nice 1866s and early Colt SAA is strong. I have been contacted by dealers wanting to buy or trade into nice, honest, original carbines or octagon rifles. I’m surprised the one mrcvs’s was looking at, being a late one with iron trim brought that kind of money. I can not even imagine what Burt’s 66 is worth.
I will be looking to buy in Tulsa. T/R
TR – it is not just the 66 that is in demand – any model with originality and condition is hot. And, with our shit-show economy which is going to get worse, collectible Winchesters will just increase in value. There are lots of collectors out there looking for guns with condition that are right and they can’t find them. It is too bad so many are being tucked away that are not right. Thirty years ago if you wanted a nice 92 or 94, you could go to a Vegas, Tulsa or a CGCA show and find one – not any more and the big issue for dealers is inventory. Look at a booklet of Merz from 30 years ago – lots of high quality guns – and then look at what he has today – lots of brown guns that don’t sell. When dealers get something nice they have a buyer without even advertising.
March 31, 2009
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I’m not sure what to believe? So, so many bad guns out there. It’s crazy. But I have been finding rifles at reasonable prices that I never would have before? I recently bought the 3 EX 85’s. Never saw a 45 EX before for sale and only 1 38 EX and 40 EX before in the last 30+ years. The Sharps rifle I got I paid way less than I should have. I was able to replace a 1875 Remington pistol in 44 WCF. Never should have sold the first one but I needed money for a 1873. I wonder if old guys like me are selling their collections? I don’t have any safe queens. But my guns are nice specimens that haven’t been messed with. I prefer guns that show some usage.
June 4, 2017
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The auction houses have a big presents at large gun shows. Tulsa has maybe six or more set up with multiple tables and sales staff. When that staff sees a big ticket gun on a table they do their thing, it’s consigned. Setup day takes a toll on nice guns for sale whether it’s consigned or bought by dealers. The only thing different about Tulsa is it’s 11 acres in one room. You, with a good pair of shoes have the same chances to buy that the auction companies or dealers have, cutting one layer of mark up on a nice gun. When that senior collector slides that gun out of it’s case I hope to be there. It’s still working for me and I’m going to try again in two weeks. T/R
September 22, 2011
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The auction houses have a big presents at large gun shows. Tulsa has maybe six or more set up with multiple tables and sales staff. When that staff sees a big ticket gun on a table they do their thing, it’s consigned. Setup day takes a toll on nice guns for sale whether it’s consigned or bought by dealers. The only thing different about Tulsa is it’s 11 acres in one room. You, with a good pair of shoes have the same chances to buy that the auction companies or dealers have, cutting one layer of mark up on a nice gun. When that senior collector slides that gun out of it’s case I hope to be there. It’s still working for me and I’m going to try again in two weeks. T/R
IF I go to Tulsa, maybe next year or the following year, how much cash should I bring? I know that varies from person to person, but what is a realistic amount?
The HUGE problem I have is that the largest bill is a $100 bill, $4000 or $5000 in your wallet folder is very thick. I don’t want to flash it when going through TSA lines, it’s thick and inconvenient. I really wish they would print 1k, 5k, 10k, 50k, and 100k bills for this very reason.
That Savage 1899 I recently purchased at the Allentown show—I negotiated a price when I walked in the door, at 8 am, put $100 down, said the Wells Fargo opens at 9 am, I’ll get the remaining money then. It’s within walking distance. Not a problem.
Or, what banks are commonplace in Tulsa?
May 2, 2009
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Your allowed to carry $10k with you. I don’t know if thats changed recently. When I get cash at the bank I ask for a receipt so if I’m ever stopped I can provide proof where I got it. I have been driving to Tulsa for years and haven’t worried about it. If you are asked about the cash from any LEO just don’t lie. Getting cash from a bank there would work if its the same bank as you use back home. Just google it. The problem would be if you don’t buy something and now you have a bunch of cash and its the weekend. If you do buy a gun there now you have to get it home on the airlines which can be difficult and risky. You might be able to have the seller ship it to you once he’s home. I bought a nice 73 deluxe at Las Vegas that I flow out to and had the seller take it home which was only 4 hours away and then drove there and paid him the rest in cash. I bought a 1 of 1000 at Tulsa and didn’t have enough on me and just paid him what I had, then when I was home drove 8 or so hours away to pay the rest. I have bought guns with cash and a check if the seller knows you.
Bob
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September 22, 2011
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1873man said
Your allowed to carry $10k with you. I don’t know if thats changed recently. When I get cash at the bank I ask for a receipt so if I’m ever stopped I can provide proof where I got it. I have been driving to Tulsa for years and haven’t worried about it. If you are asked about the cash from any LEO just don’t lie. Getting cash from a bank there would work if its the same bank as you use back home. Just google it. The problem would be if you don’t buy something and now you have a bunch of cash and its the weekend. If you do buy a gun there now you have to get it home on the airlines which can be difficult and risky. You might be able to have the seller ship it to you once he’s home. I bought a nice 73 deluxe at Las Vegas that I flow out to and had the seller take it home which was only 4 hours away and then drove there and paid him the rest in cash. I bought a 1 of 1000 at Tulsa and didn’t have enough on me and just paid him what I had, then when I was home drove 8 or so hours away to pay the rest. I have bought guns with cash and a check if the seller knows you.
Bob
I would probably only purchase something antique and mail it to me. I can’t imagine trying to fly home with an acquisition.
A nice Winchester 1866 is going to run more than 10k. Like I said, it’s unfortunate there isn’t at the very least a 1k if not a 10k bill still produced to make it more convenient—but the last thing on their mind is convenience and ease of hiding while traveling.
August 14, 2021
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The only people that notes in those denominations make life eaiser for are drug dealers and cartel members. That’s why there gone.
September 22, 2011
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Steven Gabrielli said
The only people that notes in those denominations make life eaiser for are drug dealers and cartel members. That’s why there gone.
That’s what they say, and it doesn’t deter them. But it would certainly be more convenient at a gun show. That Savage required a bit over 2k, instead of a wad of hundreds, or lesser denominations, a couple of $1000 bills and a $500 bill would have been much more convenient. Especially since $100 and under doesn’t go very far at all these days.
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https://travelpander.com/can-you-bring-cash-through-tsa/
Bob
I think Bob has laid this out pretty good. Living in Alaska over 50 years I have bought the vast majority of the guns I collected from gun shows in the lower 48. I have often carried a large amount of cash and something I have never done, but it was emphasized here, is have a receipt. When you go to the bank and withdraw a large sum for your trip, the bank will give you a receipt – just take it with you on your trip. There is nothing like a big stack of Franklins to get you the best deal possible on a gun you want. When you don’t have all the money or need to have a gun shipped it can and does work out, but there is nothing that says “done-deal” like a quick trade of Franklins for the gun. When a gun show ran over a weekend I always left time on Monday to mail the gun to myself – I would not trust the airline with a collectible Winchester.
May 23, 2009
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If it is a domestic flight there is no limit and anything over 10k internationally I think you simply have to declare it.
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Folks, I will provide an observation without naming many names. Fellow and a friend came to Cody regularly and was a Colts collector. Carried a LARGE amount of cash in a money belt. (Unlike me, he was slim and it didn’t show or not much anyway!). He was stopped for speeding in Greybull and they found his cash as they got him on a weekend and the judge was not available. Then they found all the Colts. Obviously was a gun runner or drug runner! Spent the weekend in the town jail with his Colts in another cell and his cash turned into the local bank. Monday he had his day in court, paid a small fine, and was released minus the cash. Instead he got a receipt to draw the equivalent amount from Wells Fargo bank in Cody. So…he gets to Cody and the bank won’t honor the receipt since they a) didn’t have that much cash on hands, and b) he didn’t have an account with them. They did transfer the value of cash to his home bank, but he was left with essentially no cash at the Cody show. He swore he would not return and I think he didn’t. I also now watch my speed in Greybull!
IF you attend a show in any location regularly, you may want to have an account there and also ask them to have on hand a certain amount of cash for your arrival. Be advised withdrawing or depositing of $10,000 or more in cash REQUIRES the bank to notify the enforcement division of Treasury Department. Last time I needed a large amount of cash it took me a couple months of withdrawing smaller amounts at each of the 3 banks here at home to add up to the amount I wanted. Banks here now have to order it in. I traveled very carefully and did not speed, etc. I won’t do that again. More and more folks are accepting checks and trying to avoid large sums as they travel. WE have had this discussion previously if I recall correctly. Trump halted a measure that required me and the other members of our farming Limited Liability, Limited Partnership, to register with the enforcement division of the Treasury Department. It was mandated under Biden to supposedly keep us from laundering drug money and was so simple it took our lawyer a long time to get us registered by the suspense date! We would have had to re register each year. Yeah, that will help a lot, I guess…….
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September 22, 2011
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tim tomlinson said
Folks, I will provide an observation without naming many names. Fellow and a friend came to Cody regularly and was a Colts collector. Carried a LARGE amount of cash in a money belt. (Unlike me, he was slim and it didn’t show or not much anyway!). He was stopped for speeding in Greybull and they found his cash as they got him on a weekend and the judge was not available. Then they found all the Colts. Obviously was a gun runner or drug runner! Spent the weekend in the town jail with his Colts in another cell and his cash turned into the local bank. Monday he had his day in court, paid a small fine, and was released minus the cash. Instead he got a receipt to draw the equivalent amount from Wells Fargo bank in Cody. So…he gets to Cody and the bank won’t honor the receipt since they a) didn’t have that much cash on hands, and b) he didn’t have an account with them. They did transfer the value of cash to his home bank, but he was left with essentially no cash at the Cody show. He swore he would not return and I think he didn’t. I also now watch my speed in Greybull!
IF you attend a show in any location regularly, you may want to have an account there and also ask them to have on hand a certain amount of cash for your arrival. Be advised withdrawing or depositing of $10,000 or more in cash REQUIRES the bank to notify the enforcement division of Treasury Department. Last time I needed a large amount of cash it took me a couple months of withdrawing smaller amounts at each of the 3 banks here at home to add up to the amount I wanted. Banks here now have to order it in. I traveled very carefully and did not speed, etc. I won’t do that again. More and more folks are accepting checks and trying to avoid large sums as they travel. WE have had this discussion previously if I recall correctly. Trump halted a measure that required me and the other members of our farming Limited Liability, Limited Partnership, to register with the enforcement division of the Treasury Department. It was mandated under Biden to supposedly keep us from laundering drug money and was so simple it took our lawyer a long time to get us registered by the suspense date! We would have had to re register each year. Yeah, that will help a lot, I guess…….
Tim
Great information!
How do you see more and more folks accepting of checks? Folks are wary of that. There really needs to be measures in place to make checks as good as cash. My preferred way to travel to a gun show would be with zero cash but a checkbook which I can make out a check to any individual in the precise amount desired.
May 2, 2009
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Once you buy a few guns from someone you will build trust with them and they would be more willing to take a check. I have sold a gun to someone that didn’t have enough cash that I didn’t know and he was a friend of someone I knew well. The friend vouched for him and said he would back the check if it wasn’t good. What you will see is the seller wants cash at the beginning of the show so they buy another gun. A lot of times they spotted something they really want and they need the cash to get it and might make a deal on what they are selling. They tend to settle for checks later in the show when they may not need cash.
I build up my cash over time so to stay off the radar.
Bob
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May 4, 2025
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Boy I tell ya that video mark released shooting that 66 sure has reignited my interest in a yellow boy. The temptations of do I drop 5-7k on a gun I cant shoot (unless I really jump through the hoops of a center fire conversion and load some roads like his, and or buy some of the brass that takes a 22 blank and single load it just to shoot it) or buy another dirt bike as I’ve had a hankering for another older 2 stroke Honda, or save that money for the pulling tractor I’m collecting parts to build, having a lot of interesting hobbies is rough! But if the prices are going to keep climbing for them and I have a chance at a nice condition rifle it’s hard to just say oh I’ll get one one day.
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