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Scoped Pre-War M61
August 1, 2020
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Any thoughts on this scoped Pre-war Octagon M61? With the offset proofmark, it looks like it could have been factory scoped, or at least ordered with the bases? Not sure if Winchester would have used a Fecker scope? 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/874743587

~Gary~

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August 2, 2020
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The muzzle is blued all over which shows the barrel is re-blued. Big red flag. Stock looks too good to be true. The whole gun is very suspect. The offset proof mark needs to forensically match the receiver proof if this was factory. 

August 2, 2020
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CJS57 said
Stock looks too good to be true.  

At the very least it's had a coat of tung oil or something else rubbed over it.

But how could the lying seller POSSIBLY know the scope was original to the gun?  Why would a customer have special ordered a scope that any gunsmith could easily mount?  The only scopes "standard" at the factory at this time were those provided for the M. 677, 697 series.  The Fecker is FAR superior to those, & it's understandable why a previous owner would have wanted one, but asking the factory to procure one & mount it would have been ridiculous.

August 2, 2020
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It seemed like the wood is rounded off as it fits to the receiver as well. Yes, I believe its had some help along the way. Mainly wondered about the proof mark and the possibility of a factory scope or were just the bases ordered so the customer could install the scope they wanted too. Who knows .....

I like the octagon M61's and found this one interesting ..... just not for that kind of money. Thx guys. 

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August 2, 2020
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pdog72 said
Any thoughts on this scoped Pre-war Octagon M61? With the offset proofmark, it looks like it could have been factory scoped, or at least ordered with the bases? Not sure if Winchester would have used a Fecker scope? 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/874743587  

This seller has been suspect for while now. I talked to him when he first started selling this "collection". Why hide the serial number? Why a "no return or inspection" policy? I have several factory scoped model 61's............ none with a factory Fecker. Not saying it's possible, but highly unlikely. Buyer Beware.

August 2, 2020
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What year did Winchester start bluing the muzzle on 22's?

August 2, 2020
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renegade said

This seller has been suspect for while now. I talked to him when he first started selling this "collection".

Another "Dad's Old Guns"?

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