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Wow, crazy money. Never ceases to amaze me how people cannot see a refinished Winchester.
gunbroker
550692950
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I can not see any obvious signs that it is a refinished rifle… and apparently, neither did the person who bought it, and the other people who placed bids on it.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
I can not see any obvious signs that it is a refinished rifle… and apparently, neither did the person who bought it, and the other people who placed bids on it.
Bert
I agree with you Bert. It looks like a very nice high condition original finish model 61 to me, too.
Don
January 26, 2011
Offline
Count me in on the votes for original. I sure don’t see anything suspicious. I watch this seller all the time on GB since he has some of the best examples out there. I am a bit surprised the rifle went that high as I would have guessed it would go to 3500-4000. Just my two cents…….
~Gary~
I paid $4700 for mine in the same or higher condition but with original sights. I was offered $5000 instantly by my high end collector friend. I thought I was crazy but couldn’t help myself, and I would do it again in and instant.
I would concur that the rifle is all original. The OB .22 Short is quite hard to come by and makes up only 64 rifles out of a total of 3,621 total in my survey of the Model 61’s. That is only 1.7% of the Model 61’s that have been for sale in the past 33 years or so. Simply…. there just are not many around. So either you pay top dollar for one in a big on line auction or keep checking the front door porch for a gift from the tooth fairy!
Any chance anyone got the full serial number for the gun so that I can enter it into my survey. I have 3 other 32xxx rifles in .22 Short OB and want to make certain it is not a duplicate.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Michael,
How many round barrel .22 shorts do you have in your survey?
Thanks,
Al
tionesta1 said
Michael,
How many round barrel .22 shorts do you have in your survey?
Thanks,
Al
Al,
Cooking dinner for 24 right now. Will get back tomorrow with an answer.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
twobit said
Al,
Cooking dinner for 24 right now. Will get back tomorrow with an answer.
Michael
What do you feed round barrel .22 shorts??
Vince
Southern Oregon
NRA member
Fraternal Order of Eagles
“There is but one answer to be made to the dynamite bomb and that can best be made by the Winchester rifle.”
Teddy Roosevelt
Vince said
What do you feed round barrel .22 shorts??
Since you asked Vince:
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
tionesta1 said
Michael,
How many round barrel .22 shorts do you have in your survey?
Thanks,
Al
Al,
Cooking dinner for 24 right now. Will get back tomorrow with an answer.
Michael
Good morning Al,
I have catalogued 50 RB .22 Short only rifles making them just a bit more uncommon than the OB counterpart. Though nowhere near as “cool” looking. That equates to 1.4% of the sampled rifles so far.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
twobit said
Since you asked Vince:
MenuBruschetta / Grilled pannini with tomato, garlic, basil, feta cheese and balsamic glazeRissoto / with Shitake & porta bella mushrooms with Vin Santo wineSkewers / Feta cheese, mint, Kalamata olives, and cucumberMeatballs / Italian sausage, mortadella, marinara sauce and parmesan cheeseSalad / Arugula, bresaola, shaved parmesan, lemon and olive oilNo leftovers!!!
Michael,
You’re making my Italian mouth water.
Al
Thanks Michael,
Pretty rare. I agree that the Octagon’s are more cool looking though. I’ll need to find one, as I have a round barrel.
Al
tionesta1 said
twobit said
Since you asked Vince:
MenuBruschetta / Grilled pannini with tomato, garlic, basil, feta cheese and balsamic glazeRissoto / with Shitake & porta bella mushrooms with Vin Santo wineSkewers / Feta cheese, mint, Kalamata olives, and cucumberMeatballs / Italian sausage, mortadella, marinara sauce and parmesan cheeseSalad / Arugula, bresaola, shaved parmesan, lemon and olive oilNo leftovers!!!Michael,
You’re making my Italian mouth water.
Al
E ‘stato un ottimo pasto!!
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Weren’t the safety locks on the Model 61’s supposed to show a red band when it was pushed in to the left for firing, or was that and added feature later in production?
James
Coltsaaman said
Wow, crazy money. Never ceases to amaze me how people cannot see a refinished Winchester.
gunbroker
550692950
My NOVICE expertise leads me to agree. The bluing in the proof marks, the finish/ luster of the metal, the difference in patina/ wear of the sights and dovetail blank… lead me to agree.
Being that I am 1) not qualified to appraise firearms 2) not participating in this purchase 3) probably purchased more “uncollectable” Winchesters then most on this forum, I hope the purchaser is ecstatic and that I am wrong.
Saying that, I don’t mind refinished examples. I have myself enjoyed bringing a few rusted and pitted Winchester rimfires out of junk piles and onto gun racks.
PS I don’t recall the seller stating that the finish is original.
Vince
Southern Oregon
NRA member
Fraternal Order of Eagles
“There is but one answer to be made to the dynamite bomb and that can best be made by the Winchester rifle.”
Teddy Roosevelt
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