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Questions regarding the History of the 38-72 cartridge
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Kirk Durston
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I have a few questions regarding the 38-72 cartridge, one of the original chamberings of the Winchester Model 1895. The photo below shows a reloaded 38-72 cartridge. The lead bullet was cast from an original Winchester 38-72 mould and weights 275 grains.

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  1. What year did Winchester stop advertising the 38-72 rifle in their catalogue?
  2. What year did Winchester stop advertising 38-72 cartridges in their catalogue?
  3. Did any other manufacturer produce 38-72 cartridges?

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  Well 38-55, It seems that the Winchester Factory, Loaded the 38-72 Cartridge up until 1936 ?

Also Winchester Chambered that 38-72 Cartridge in the Model 1885 Single Shot Rifle.

According to Bert, there were 3 Winchester 1885 Single Shot Rifles Manufactured in 38-72.

You can check it out by, clicking on 1885 in 45-60 Thread and look at Bert’s Chart.

1885 in 45-60

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I have seen 38-72 cartridges produced by UMC.  I’m not sure if there were others.

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hokie said

  Well 38-55, It seems that the Winchester Factory, Loaded the 38-72 Cartridge up until 1936 ?

Thanks, Hokie. Did you get the 1936 date from the Winchester catalogues, or Cartridges of the World?

 

Mark Douglas, thank you for that info re. UMC making 38-72 cartridges. I wonder when they stopped producing them?

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I looked through One Hundred Years of Winchester Cartridge Boxes by Giles and Shuey and they state on page 219: 

“Never very popular, coming as it did during the early days of smokeless powder and the exciting new high velocity “necked” cartridges, it still found its way into the catalogs until 1946″…”Factory records for 1911 and 1912 indicate non-catalog Lesmok loadings for both Soft Point and Full Patch.  No labels so marked have ever been found…”  They go on to show a box that dates to 8-25 noting that it “shows the post- 1932 call-outs of Staynless and Non-Mercuric”

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1892Takedown, very interesting information. Thank you!

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  Hey There 38-55,

 What Chris had said is in that book, also on the next page about the 40-72 WCF, it eludes to that caliber as to being made in 1932.

 The Book of World Cartridges is where it is listed as being made up to 1936. Supposedly Winchester closed out sales of the Model 1895, and the Cartridge.

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Thanks, men, for the input and direction on this question. It is much appreciated.

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