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Question on a 1892 SRC
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William Cawley
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December 24, 2022 - 4:23 am
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  A friend of mine just bought a1892 SRC 32 wcf SS# 566442.

The carbine has no front magazine band, it’s has rifle magazine hanger.

I thought carbines had the two bands front and rear and rifles used the front hanger.

My question is this normal for a carbine.

The carbine does not look like been messed with.

Thanks

Bill

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Yes, it is a normal Model 1892 Carbine.  Only the .44 and .38 caliber Carbines had a front barrel band.  The .25 and .32 caliber Carbines used the rifle style magazine tube retaining ring.

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William Cawley
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December 24, 2022 - 2:07 pm
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Thank Bert

Bill

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William Cawley said
Thank Bert

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Bill,

Can you please post images of the areas of stamped writing on the barrel and the upper tang of the receiver just below the hammer?  Based on the serial number the rifle was manufactured during 1910.  Winchester was assembling a large “batch” of almost 4500 saddle ring carbines at the time.  Most were of 25-20 and 32 WCF caliber.  Because the magazine tube is narrower for these two small calibers the use of a magazine retaining band dismissed the problem of needing two slightly different forward barrel bands that would have been difficult to distinguished from each other.  Attached below is a portion of my survey spreadsheet which shows the distribution by serial number of SRC’s vs sporting rifles (SR) for the rifles I have sampled in that SN range.

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just a side note, 

the winchester 1873 saddle ring carbine in 32-20 also used the front magazine tube retaining band  instead of the barrel band used  on the 38-40 & 44-40 carbines. 

Jeremy Scott.

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William Cawley
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December 25, 2022 - 5:47 pm
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Michael, I will get the photos you want, it will take me couple days.

Bill

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William Cawley said
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   Michael, here the photos you asked for on the 1892 SRC

Bill

  

Thanks Bill.  I have added your rifle into my survey.  It’s one more little piece to a huge puzzle.

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