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jwm94 said
I really like this type of discussion as it is very educational on so many different levels.Where price and premiums are concerned the Red-Book has established four(?) separate time periods to address this issue. I do think that each time period should reflect a greater difference in estimated values than it does, though.
For example, consider that like new 98+% 1950-60 era Model 94’s are already bringing right at $2000 w/o the box. With this in mind, what would you be willing to pay for one in like condition in the 1920-1940’s era – $4000 to $6000? What about 1899 to 1919 – $6000 to $8000? What about one in like shape that was made in 1894 – 1898 ANTIQUE range?
Since the values in the Red-Book are based on actual sales prices it will reflect a lot of prices that we complain about as being ridiculously high. With this in mind, would we not already be adhering to pricing standards similar to those noted in the above example for the Model 94, where more significant differences can easily be seen in each time period?
James
James, Larry and Bert did their best but this still is only a guide. You need to keep up with current sales and realize high end, rare or deluxe guns quite often sell above the book.
mrcvs said
I was referencing Parker when I mentioned Meriden.
Sorry, and to you too Clarence. I got lost. I used to look at the antique Parkers but never bought one. Now I can’t even remember which is earlier Parker or Parker Bros?
Chuck said
James, Larry and Bert did their best but this still is only a guide. You need to keep up with current sales and realize high end, rare or deluxe guns quite often sell above the book.
I’m not knocking their work. In fact, I applaud their ability to have published such an interesting publication…four times! I bought a copy of each edition as soon as it hit the street. What I meant to do by providing the example that I did is make clear that I expect to pay a significant difference for a certain piece if it was made in a different time period, and the Red-Book at times blurs the lines with but a smidgen of difference in many cases, or a smaller percentage value than I would be willing to pay, due to the high sale prices that we so frequently complain about on this forum. That said, I don’t mind paying significantly more for a gun made one year before another, regardless of what time period it falls within.
James
Jim I didn’t take it that way. I have a basic distrust for price guides. The Red Book is the best of the bunch for our Winchesters.
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