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I think my wabbits are safe, at least from me, Larry. My neighbors’ dogs seem to like terrorizing them but I like having them around.

Scored some factory brass, bullets and dies over in the enabler section; thanks Dana! (dane62). Looks like I’ll be firing this thumper some day soon after all. I’ll check in with Waters, et al but if anyone has any favorite loads they’d like to PM me I’d certainly appreciate it. It appears I’ll be tapping my idle supply of IMR-4895.

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I have just (1) single Model 71 listed in my research survey with a matted barrel (out of the 1,473 total I have listed).  It is any early (1936) production Special Rifle, and I have it documented as being in a private collection.

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I have a (1936) production Winchester Model 71 Deluxe Rifle with what I believe is a factory matted barrel – the proof mark is off to the side. It’s likely the same rifle you already have recorded but my version of your 71 survey is a couple years old so my reference is outdated. 

I’ll email you details on it and a couple other 71s (deluxe rifle and standard carbine) I’ve picked up since the last time we were in contact. I may have a 64 deluxe rifle for your  64 survey as well. I’ll try to get info to you in the next day or two. Thanks 

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To the OP’s question – some of us are indeed fans of, collectors of, and users of the Model 71. They’ve been at the top of my collecting/accumulating interest for the last 20 years!

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Thanks! I will very much appreciate any information you can pass along.

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I have a (1936) production Winchester Model 71 Deluxe Rifle with what I believe is a factory matted barrel – the proof mark is off to the side. It’s likely the same rifle you already have recorded but my version of your 71 survey is a couple years old so my reference is outdated. 

I’ll email you details on it and a couple other 71s (deluxe rifle and standard carbine) I’ve picked up since the last time we were in contact. I may have a 64 deluxe rifle for your  64 survey as well. I’ll try to get info to you in the next day or two. Thanks 

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To the OP’s question – some of us are indeed fans of, collectors of, and users of the Model 71. They’ve been at the top of my collecting/accumulating interest for the last 20 years!  

Now that is one amazing Model 71!  If I could have this one, one of the very rare Model 71’s in .33 … and I seem to recall there was maybe at least one in .45-70…  🙂 

And yes, I would want several in .348 too 😉

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steve004 said

 

Now that is one amazing Model 71!  If I could have this one, one of the very rare Model 71’s in .33 … and I seem to recall there was maybe at least one in .45-70…  🙂 

And yes, I would want several in .348 too 😉  

Thanks Steve,

I’ve hunted hard for one in 33 wcf and 45-70 without much luck. The ones I’ve found couldn’t be bought, or were fake. 

I wont give up though, until I have one of each ?

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It’s seems I’ve seen at least one .33 and one .45-70 offered for sale, at some point during the past 45 years.  I have the vague recollection that Ron’s Guns in East Lyme Connecticut may offered both a .33 and a .45-70 – decades ago probably.  You might contact him – he would likely remember the rifles – might even know where they went? 

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By the way, I recall last year a fellow at a small gun show was displaying a very high condition pre-war carbine.  He wasn’t selling it and it was his pride and joy.  It had wonderful dark wood and while it wasn’t in .33 or .45-70, it was a spectacular piece with so much individual character (e.g. the dark wood contrasted with lovely deep blue) that I couldn’t see how anyone with a pulse couldn’t feel love for it.  For me, it was the highlight of the show to see. 

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It’s seems I’ve seen at least one .33 and one .45-70 offered for sale, at some point during the past 45 years.  I have the vague recollection that Ron’s Guns in East Lyme Connecticut may offered both a .33 and a .45-70 – decades ago probably.  You might contact him – he would likely remember the rifles – might even know where they went?   

Thank you for the information! I’ll chase down any lead I can.

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By the way, I recall last year a fellow at a small gun show was displaying a very high condition pre-war carbine.  He wasn’t selling it and it was his pride and joy.  It had wonderful dark wood and while it wasn’t in .33 or .45-70, it was a spectacular piece with so much individual character (e.g. the dark wood contrasted with lovely deep blue) that I couldn’t see how anyone with a pulse couldn’t feel love for it.  For me, it was the highlight of the show to see.   

I couldn’t agree more. I have a couple pre-war carbines and I still get excited every time I get my hands on them.

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I forgot to mention the carbine I saw at the gunshow last year was a deluxe of course.  I see there is one for sale on gunbroker.  It doesn’t hold a candle to the one I saw:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/741385599

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Call me greedy but I’d settle for both the one you saw at the show and the one in the gb link;-)

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Thanks! I will very much appreciate any information you can pass along.
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Bert,

 

An an email has been sent. 

Thanks 

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Can’t say I’ve even seen a carbine. Nice! I did take advantage of today’s beautiful weather to shoot my rifle. Took very little shooting to regulate the sights to the load I put together last night but I burned up all 20 rounds anyway. Wink I’d venture to say Col. Whelen wouldn’t find it very interesting but it performed better than I expected. Recoil wasn’t much worse than a few 45-70’s I fire regularly but it wasn’t much fun to fire off a bench. POI did shift significantly as the relatively thin barrel got hot but I was expecting that. OTOH the 71 was designed as a hard-hitting hunting rifle so I’d say it performed quite well. Unfortunately it’s also a high condition rifle so I doubt it will ever go hunting with me. That’s really a shame, the rifle handles beautifully and the action sounds and feels like the precision machine it truly is.

Yes, I think I understand now. Smile

 

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Sounds like a fun time.  And I agree, that is the dilemma with these higher condition rifles – you don’t want to use them for what they were meant to be used for.  Sigh.

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With all this talk about model 71s I thought I would share a group of 71 carbines I’ve put together. It’s been a long process but if you hunt hard they will turn up.79B6D32D-E635-430A-82FD-7072097AF448.jpegImage Enlarger

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started47 said
With all this talk about model 71s I thought I would share a group of 71 carbines I’ve put together. It’s been a long process but if you hunt hard they will turn up.79B6D32D-E635-430A-82FD-7072097AF448.jpegImage Enlarger  

 

Very classy bunch of rifles started47!  I only have one 71carbine but completely understand the need for more.

 

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Outstanding collection, Gary! Fine specimens, every one. Wow.

Discovered the screws that secure the rear sight to the receiver were loose on my rifle. Didn’t notice them being loose before, guess more than my shoulder got jarred around today. I guess that explains one or more high fliers. Guess that means I get to shoot it at least one more time!

I hunt S TX brush country and it’s no place for a 90%+ gun, Steve. I cringe a bit with my 100 yr old 70% guns but they’ve probably seen worse. I would like to see what this classy bruiser would do with a big hog, maybe someday. Wink  It’s a bit too much for those little S TX deer so it will likely miss the trip next weekend. Cry

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TXGunNut: Even if you don’t hunt your 71, it’s good that you’re shooting it. I have a couple I don’t shoot, a few I shoot but don’t hunt, and a couple that have enough character I don’t mind taking them into the woods. 

 

started47: That is an impressive group of carbines! Thank you for sharing and congratulations on owning them. They all look like beauties!

 

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Joel Goodrich said

Bert,

I have a (1936) production Winchester Model 71 Deluxe Rifle with what I believe is a factory matted barrel – the proof mark is off to the side. It’s likely the same rifle you already have recorded but my version of your 71 survey is a couple years old so my reference is outdated. 

I’ll email you details on it and a couple other 71s (deluxe rifle and standard carbine) I’ve picked up since the last time we were in contact. I may have a 64 deluxe rifle for your  64 survey as well. I’ll try to get info to you in the next day or two. Thanks 

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To the OP’s question – some of us are indeed fans of, collectors of, and users of the Model 71. They’ve been at the top of my collecting/accumulating interest for the last 20 years!  

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Thanks!  Your matted barrel rifle is the one in my survey.  The other three rifles you sent me the information for are new entries, and are very much appreciated.  As of this moment, I now have 1,609 Model 71 rifles documented (3.405% of the total production).  I expect that the survey will be near the 4% mark by the end of this year, and that 5% will be easily attainable in the near term future.  My eventual goal is to document 10% (or more) of the total production.

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steve004 said

Now that is one amazing Model 71!  If I could have this one, one of the very rare Model 71’s in .33 … and I seem to recall there was maybe at least one in .45-70…  🙂 

And yes, I would want several in .348 too 😉  

Steve,

Currently, I have verified (2) Model 71 rifles in 33 WCF, and (2) more in 45-70.  Overall, either caliber is rare!

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started47 said
With all this talk about model 71s I thought I would share a group of 71 carbines I’ve put together. It’s been a long process but if you hunt hard they will turn up.79B6D32D-E635-430A-82FD-7072097AF448.jpegImage Enlarger  

Do I have the information for these (to add them to the survey) ?

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