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October 11, 2016
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What ballpark value are these going for these days. I dought these are anything special, just neat old guns. The one On top is missing the dust cover and a screw, and it’s been branded cp29. The other is all there but the forearm stock is rough.
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October 11, 2016
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There both 38 WCF.
May 2, 2009
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You need to post more closeups of the guns so we can see more detail to make a estimate. Pictures of the stampings are helpful.
Bob
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October 11, 2016
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I will add some pics soon. I did take a look at the bores though and they look pretty bad. I’m thinking these are just wall hangers. Can barrels be rebored? They are actually 32 wcf, my 92 is 38wcf.
May 2, 2009
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Yes, you can reline the bores but you would be surprised how good a bad will shoot if you use jacketed ammo.
Bob
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November 7, 2015
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I’m having a 92 in 32WCF relined but have a 73 in 38WCF with a terrible-looking bore that actually shoots pretty well with cast loads it likes. Did you use a bore scope?
October 11, 2016
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I used a light. Compared to my other winchesters, 86, 92, 94, these are by far the worst. Little rifleling left and pitted. It’s nice to know that it is possible to repair.
May 2, 2009
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The problem is if you do reline the bores, it does hurt the value of the guns. It all depends what shape they are in now.
Bob
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November 7, 2015
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1873man said
The problem is if you do reline the bores, it does hurt the value of the guns. It all depends what shape they are in now.Bob
Agreed. In my case it was a tough call but it’s such a slick old gun I really wanted to make it a shooter. It’s a 60-70% shooter that has seen decades of hard but gentle use. It has no special features. Unfortunately the bore appears to be a victim of corrosive primers but that’s all too common it the rifles in my price range. The 1873 has a bit more collector value so relining was not an option. It almost became a safe queen but I wanted to try one more load before I gave up on it. Bore still fouls rather quickly but it’s always a crowd-pleaser when I take it to the range.
I’ve found (and read) that soft lead somewhat oversize bullets and black powder are the key to making these old guns shoot, even when the bore looks rather discouraging.
October 11, 2016
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http://s1139.photobucket.com/user/dmcummins/slideshow/1873
here is a slideshow, I havnt figured out how to post multiple pics yet. This gun is missing a couple of screws and dustplate. It has also been branded at some point.
value?
October 11, 2016
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Here is the second one. What’s the deal with the trigger?
http://s1139.photobucket.com/user/dmcummins/slideshow/1873%20with%20dustcover
May 2, 2009
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The second one has a set trigger which is one of the most common options on a 73. I would say its worth $1100 – $1200 if the set works. The first one missing the dust cover is worth $900-$1000 but if you can link the brands to some good history it will be worth more.
Bob
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June 5, 2015
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I think your rifle was branded early on with the CP of the Central Pacific, then by the Southern Pacific take over. Can’t be proven but my brother who is a railway nut had a travel/ lap desk marked like that at one time.
Vince
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October 11, 2016
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Thanks.
March 20, 2009
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Dmc said
I will add some pics soon. I did take a look at the bores though and they look pretty bad. I’m thinking these are just wall hangers. Can barrels be rebored? They are actually 32 wcf, my 92 is 38wcf.
Hello Dmc,
Could I get a similar series of photos of the Model 1892 so that I can add the rifle into my survey please? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-research-survey-discussion/winchester-model-1892-all-rifle-survey/
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Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
May 2, 2009
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A while back there was a discussion about a railroad gun. here is the link.
cumberland-pennsylvania-railroad-marked-winchester
In my survey I found one that has CP89 stamped on it but in the metal. It was a 44 rifle s/n 453829.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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October 11, 2016
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twobit said
Hello Dmc,
Could I get a similar series of photos of the Model 1892 so that I can add the rifle into my survey please? https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-research-survey-discussion/winchester-model-1892-all-rifle-survey/
Thanks
Michael
No problem, I’ll try and get some pics this weekend.
October 11, 2016
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Vince said
I think your rifle was branded early on with the CP of the Central Pacific, then by the Southern Pacific take over. Can’t be proven but my brother who is a railway nut had a travel/ lap desk marked like that at one time.
It would be great to get some history on the brand. But I would think that if this was common someone’s else here would have seen this before.
of coarse if your brother is interested in adding to his collection, just let me know.
