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Model 94 with M64 forend issue
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Bert H.
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April 30, 2026 - 4:23 pm
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Quite frankly, I do not recommend purchasing that rifle.  It is a cobbled together “Frankenchester”.

It appears that the forend tenon has been soldered in place by the “Bubba” who rebuilt it.  The bedding in the forend stock was added by “Bubba”, so No, it is not normal.

To remove the magazine band, the first step is to drive the transverse pin out (left to right with the muzzle pointed downrange).  Ordinarily, with the pin removed, it would allow the magazine tube to be pulled forward (through the band and forend cap) until it clears both.  However, it appears that the tube has been soldered to the tenon and barrel. If that is the case, it will not be possible to remove the mag tube.

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Welcome to WACA and the forums! I’d take Bert’s advice on this one and let your first rifle be one in better shape. We can help with that!

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That’s a horrible looking thing. Leave it unless you can get it for 5$.

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IsaiahMN said

Bert H. said
Quite frankly, I do not recommend purchasing that rifle.  It is a cobbled together “Frankenchester”.
It appears that the forend tenon has been soldered in place by the “Bubba” who rebuilt it.  The bedding in the forend stock was added by “Bubba”, so No, it is not normal.
To remove the magazine band, the first step is to drive the transverse pin out (left to right with the muzzle pointed downrange).  Ordinarily, with the pin removed, it would allow the magazine tube to be pulled forward (through the band and forend cap) until it clears both.  However, it appears that the tube has been soldered to the tenon and barrel. If that is the case, it will not be possible to remove the mag tube.
Bert
  

Thank you for the reply, I think what you are seeing that looks like solder is actually a layer of plastic that is part of the bedding, in your opinion in its current state is the wood forend able to be removed? 
I can pick this rifle up for $400 out the door, I’ve never seen such an early example receiver, I don’t plan to shoot it much if at all. More wanted it for a wall hanger conversation piece. Do you feel it’s still a bad call at the price? Please be blunt. Haha
  

If it is bedding material (not solder), and you can remove it, the magazine tube should slide forward and out of the mag ring which will allow the forend stock to be removed.

As for the price… I personally would be hard pressed to pay more than $200 for it.

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Hard pass on this gun

“If you can’t convince them, confuse them”

President Harry S. Truman

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Pictures of the rest of the gun would help, I’d consider what the cost of an original 94 front end would be and ad that into the equation. But just from the pictures you’ve posted. It’s definitely a conversation piece.  

Edit to add. I’d offer 200 to.  

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IsaiahMN said

IsaiahMN said
Hello,
 
Excited to be a new member! About to pick up my first ever Winchester rifle!
I am looking at purchasing a model 94 from 1895 (serial in 26,000) range. Though it has a model 64 barrel and forend. It appears the forend has some sort of bedding done (is this normal?) and I’d like to remove the forend but there is this dovetail like piece under the forend cap between the barrel and magazine tube that I cannot seem to figure out how to remove. Also curious how to remove the front magazine tube band that dovetails into the barrel just before the magazine cap. I would love any input or resources on disassembly of this area.
 
Thank you!!
PHOTOS BELOW
 
https://photobucket.com/share/d0941a6b-61fe-40d1-8d8d-2b8cb92ec081
  

I have decided to pass on this rifle, thank you all for the input!
  

If he comes down to $200 or less after you say no. Go for it buddy.  Parts aren’t cheap. 

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Best advice I was given was to buy the best gun I could afford. This gun may be interesting but if you’re patient and paying attention a better gun will come along. In the meantime maybe you can scrape a few more Benjamins into the pile to get something nicer. Full disclosure: I don’t always follow the sage advice offered but I generally have fun. Trying to get a cobbled together Frankenchester to work like it should isn’t fun, IMHO. 

 

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My rule of thumb is to buy a gun that costs a little more than I can afford

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Tedk said
My rule of thumb is to buy a gun that costs a little more than I can afford
  

You can do monthly, or annually.  The good lord rewards patients.  He teaches fools like me lessons.  

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