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March 25, 2015
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A question probably most easily answered by Michael. How uncommon is a Model 92 takedown standard Sporting rifle with octagonal barrel in .44 W.C.F.?
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Tom
March 20, 2009
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tsbccut said
A question probably most easily answered by Michael. How uncommon is a Model 92 takedown standard Sporting rifle with octagonal barrel in .44 W.C.F.?
Thanks,
Tom
Hello Tom,
It is interesting to see the distribution of the various calibers as presented in takedown frame rifles. I have calculated this a couple of times as I continue to gather more samples in my survey. Approximately 10% of all sporting rifles were manufactured with takedown frames. The relative popularity is inverse to the caliber size.
25-20 WCF 39%
32 WCF 29%
38 WCF 16%
44 WCF 15%
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Michael
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March 25, 2015
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Thank you Michael. Great information.
Do you have data that addresses the octagonal barrel part of the question?
What percentage of total 1892-1941 production were sporting rifles?
Tom
March 20, 2009
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tsbccut said
Thank you Michael. Great information.
Do you have data that addresses the octagonal barrel part of the question?
What percentage of total 1892-1941 production were sporting rifles?
Tom
84% of the 44 WCF takedown frames have octagon shaped barrels. Sporting rifles made up 70% of the total production.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
March 25, 2015
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Thanks again, Michael.
Looks to be about 1.05% (10,549) of total production (1,004,675) by my numbers.
Collector’s terms, I know, and most likely subjective, but what are the percentage levels for terms such as “rare” and “scarce” in your opinion? Or is there a standard?
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Tom
April 15, 2005
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Just a possible point of interest, the total number of serialized Model 1892/92/53/65 receiver frames was actually 1,007,608 (not 1,004,675 number published by past authors).
Of the total 1,007,608 number, 4,244 of them were Model 53 rifles serialized in the Model 92 range, and approximately 7,746 more of them were Model 65 rifles all serial numbered in the Model 92 sequence. All told, the actual total Model 1892/92 production was approximately just 995,618 guns.
Bert
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April 15, 2005
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tsbccut said
Thanks again, Michael.
Looks to be about 1.05% (10,549) of total production (1,004,675) by my numbers.
Collector’s terms, I know, and most likely subjective, but what are the percentage levels for terms such as “rare” and “scarce” in your opinion? Or is there a standard?
Much appreciated,
Tom
Tom,
Speaking only for myself, “rare” is fewer than (10) total specimens, and “scarce” is < 500 specimens. I would refer to a production total of 10,549 as “slightly uncommon”.
Keep in mind that the total Model 53 production was 15,118, and the total Model 65 production was approximately 7,746. We do not consider either of those models as “rare” or even “scarce”.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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