Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Model 70 question
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 16
Member Since:
March 21, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
August 22, 2021 - 11:04 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Hello all,

I have a model 70 that I’m trying to find out when it was made. I found a site on line that gave a list of serial numbers starting with the first number of each year. My serial number falls in the range for a 1950 vintage rifle.

What has me wondering is my number has a capital U as the first digit. Whereas none of the serial numbers in the list I found started with a U. I am hoping someone can tell me the significance of the U and if it’s not a 1950 vintage rifle, because of the U prefix, what year is it? The serial number is U145xxx.

TIA

Avatar
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 11001
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
August 23, 2021 - 12:01 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Dave,

None of the pre-1964 production Model 70 rifles have a serial number prefix letter… they are all simply numerals. In 1968, Winchester added a “G” prefix to the serial numbers on the Model 70 to be in compliance with the Gun Control Act (GCA) that was enacted in November of that year, and that prefix was used at least through March 2006. When FN took over production of the Model 70 is 2008 (in Columbia. SC) I do not know what the serial number prefix they used.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
NY
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 6556
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
August 23, 2021 - 12:19 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

A pre-’64 would have the ser. no. etched on the bottom of the bolt.

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 16
Member Since:
March 21, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
August 23, 2021 - 5:02 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Mystery solved. 

It turns out that the reason it has a U in the serial number is because it’s a Ted Williams/Sears model 53. After looking at the rifle, I was so sure it was a model 70 I didn’t even look at the barrel. duh. That kinda explains why I couldn’t find a serial number with a U prefix.

It’s a push feed, so made after ’64. My understanding is it was made in the late ’60s or early ’70s. I was unable to find a listing with serial number dates for the 53 anywhere. Any ideas as to a specific year of production?

Thanks for trying to help with me putting out the wrong info Burt and Clarence. I’ll try to be more observant when I post another question in the future.

Dave

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 347
Member Since:
February 18, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
August 24, 2021 - 12:40 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Well…  I would have suggested that Akum’s Razor to have offered the answer: “That rifle was made just for “U”!  But now I guess, his formula would have suggested reading all nomenclature!  (And never omitting to read toilet installation instructions showing… which way “UP”! 🙂 🙂 🙂 )  Sorry, again, I couldn’t resist. 

But a serious question predicated upon gun industry practice of utilizing alfa prefixes or suffixes reflecting some sort of connotation.  My own Win 88 Carbine without “H” designation as slipping under the ’68 year regulatory wire.  Wasn’t an alfa suffix “X”, some such, used on the pre ’64 Model 70 where inadvertent ‘duplicate’ serialization would have otherwise resulted?  

Best!

John

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 778
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 6556
TXGunNut: 5218
Chuck: 4706
steve004: 4361
1873man: 4339
Big Larry: 2360
twobit: 2324
mrcvs: 1785
TR: 1733
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 17
Topics: 12960
Posts: 113103

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1799
Members: 8956
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation