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I have a Mod. 64 #1315225 so it is a 41 or 42 yr. It is D&T’d for both a receiver sight and a tang sight,was this done on the same year model 94’s or was it unique to the 64.
Model 64 serial number 1315225 was manufactured in January, 1942. Winchester drilled & tapped both the receiver and the upper tang as a standard feature on the Model 64 from August 1934 through mid June 1942, when the hole in the upper tang was eliminated.
For the Model 94, only the upper tang was drilled & tapped unless special ordered with a Lyman No. 56 receiver sight. Winchester began drilling & tapping the Model 94 receiver as a standard feature in late 1952.
The truly odd fact, is that when the 219 Zipper was introduced in 1937, it was most commonly equipped with the No. 98A Bolt Peep sight, but Winchester still milled a dovetail in the barrel for a 22-series sight, drilled & tapped the upper tang, and drilled & tapped the receiver for a sight! Why they wasted the time, effort, and expense to do so truly baffles me.
Which caliber & variation is your Model 64 rifle?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Hi Bert, Thanks for the explanation. My recollection also a bit skewed. Now making file notation!
Extra holes sounding definitely unnecessary production time/effort/cost!
Could the multiple d&t situation you describe have been attributed to a multi-drill jig fixture – all at once? That or a production line process, at which stage drilling before discriminating whether eventual Model 64 or 94 receiver designation? Otherwise totally obtuse and likely genetic grandkids of those production engineers morphed! Now bureaucrats writing tax codes! 🙂
Best!
John
iskra said
Hi Bert, Thanks for the explanation. My recollection also a bit skewed. Now making file notation!
Extra holes sounding definitely unnecessary production time/effort/cost!
Could the multiple d&t situation you describe have been attributed to a multi-drill jig fixture – all at once? That or a production line process, at which stage drilling before discriminating whether eventual Model 64 or 94 receiver designation? Otherwise totally obtuse and likely genetic grandkids of those production engineers morphed! Now bureaucrats writing tax codes! 🙂
Best!
John
I do not believe it was a “multi-drill jig fixture”, especially because the Model 94 receivers were only drilled on the upper tang, whereas the Model 64 receivers were drill on the upper tang and the left side of the receiver frame. Winchester production employees had to make a conscious decision (selection) as to which receivers were destined to be built up as a Model 64 Rifle versus a Model 94 Carbine, especially those that were going to become 219 Zipper rifles. Each milling and drilling location would have to be a separate step in the production process, with a deliberate selection to do it.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
How many Model 64 Winchester’s slipped through the cracks and never got drilled and tapped on the tang or on the left side of the receiver for a receiver sight? I saw one today with a 1946 date that was not drilled and tapped in either spot.
The early production Model 64 receivers were not drilled & tapped for a receiver sight until August, 1933 when it became a standard feature for all calibers except the 219 Zipper. The upper tangs were drilled & tapped on all Model 64 receivers until June/July 1942. From its inception in 1937, many of the Model 64 rifles made in 219 Zipper were not drilled & tapped for a receiver sight, but the bolt was milled & tapped for a No. 98 bolt-peep sight. Following the WW II production hiatus, the receivers were drilled & tapped on all calibers except for some of the 219 Zippers. The sighting options for the post WW II Model 64 was a barrel mounted 22 H rear sight, or a Lyman No. 56 receiver sight, or the No. 98 bolt peep sight. If a Lyman No. 56 was ordered, the barrel was milled for a sight and a slot filler installed. If a No. 98 bolt peep was ordered, the barrel was not milled for a rear sight, and receiver holes were often omitted.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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