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I have a Model 64 carbine S/N 1117289 (20″ barrel). How common were these and how would it’s value compare to a regular length Model 64 from the same era in similar condition?
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Ed
January 26, 2011
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Ed,
They are far less common than the full length version. I would say the 64 carbine should bring a 40-50% premium over the standard barrel length, everything else being equal. For deluxe examples, the premium could even be higher, as they are even more scarce to find. I own two of the 64 carbines and one full length and this was my experience in shopping for them. They are cool little rifles.
~Gary~
Hello Ed,
Thus far, I have (147) Model 64 Carbines, and (89) Model 64 Deluxe Carbines in my research survey. That is compared to (788) standard rifles, and (338) Deer Rifles. I would place a 50% premium on a standard Carbine, and 100% on a Deluxe Carbine.
Which caliber is your Model 64 Carbine?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Hi Bert
Mine is a standard carbine in .30-30 and although it is not at hand I think it is marked .30 WCF.
Ed
Ed,
Based on the serial number, it was manufactured in October of 1936, and it should be marled “30 W.C.F.”
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert, was the rear sight dovetail on the carbine closer to the receiver than on a 64 rifle?
Mike,
Yes, it is closer.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Thanks Bert. I passed on a “carbine” recently that had the rear sight in the same location as a 64 rifle.
Mike,
That was most likely a good move on your part. The article I wrote on the Model 64 a few years ago has pictures showing the rear sight location and the type of rear sight elevator used for the Rifle and the Carbine.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
You are welcome Ed,
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
pdog72 said
Ed,
They are far less common than the full length version. I would say the 64 carbine should bring a 40-50% premium over the standard barrel length, everything else being equal. For deluxe examples, the premium could even be higher, as they are even more scarce to find. I own two of the 64 carbines and one full length and this was my experience in shopping for them. They are cool little rifles.
Ed Casey said
I have a Model 64 carbine S/N 1117289 (20″ barrel). How common were these and how would it’s value compare to a regular length Model 64 from the same era in similar condition?
Thanks
Ed
Holy Moley. I just bought a standard M64 rifle # 1117360, just 71 numbers off your carbine.
It is at least 98%+ and I paid $1,550 for it to give you an idea. Big Larry
January 26, 2011
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mike webb said
Bert, was the rear sight dovetail on the carbine closer to the receiver than on a 64 rifle?
Mike,
In addition to the rear sight position moved back, the front sight ramp is noticeably shorter than the full length rifle ramp. The hood itself appears to be the same. Just another way to identify a correct 64 carbine.
~Gary~
Big Larry,
Not bad on your purchase… I recorded serial number 1117360 when it sold back in ’09 as a standard Model 64 rifle in 30 WCF when it sold for $1,265.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
I have to wait another week to see the rifle. The seller went out of town right after we made the deal on it. Delivery is scheduled for next Wednesday. Really looking forward to this rifle. Years ago I had a M64 Deluxe that was minty and I also had a 219 Zipper that had 1/2 of the peep sight missing. Never was able to find another and I sold the rifle. It was a good shooter even with the regular sights on it. 1st day out I hit 7 Jack rabbits with 7 shots. Ammo was not hard to find in the early 70’s. Thanks Bert. Big Larry
Howdy, just found this post. what is the correct distance that the rear sight should be from the receiver on a model 64 deluxe carbine? i have a chance to buy one, just don’t want to get fooled. thank you!
brokenshoes said
Howdy, just found this post. what is the correct distance that the rear sight should be from the receiver on a model 64 deluxe carbine? i have a chance to buy one, just don’t want to get fooled. thank you!
I’ve attached a link to Bert’s article in the Winter 2013 Winchester Collector magazine (pages 12-15) regarding the Model 64. It would be a good reference to read and take notes prior to purchasing.
https://winchestercollector.org/magazines/201301/files/assets/basic-html/page-12.html
Don
January 26, 2011
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brokenshoes said
Howdy, just found this post. what is the correct distance that the rear sight should be from the receiver on a model 64 deluxe carbine? i have a chance to buy one, just don’t want to get fooled. thank you!
It is 3″ from the frame (as opposed to 5″ on a full length 64)
Here’s mine……not a deluxe, but a pre-war in about 95% condition. I think the Lyman 1A and the #6 leaf may have come on it as I find no marks where a standard sight may have been. A fairly cool little rifle.
~Gary~
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