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May 3, 2024 - 4:04 pm
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Hi Guys,

 

I have the opportunity to look at and purchase a model 63 in WRF with 3 cases of ammo.  What is the going rate for one of these.  I don’t know condition, but will later today.

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Manuel

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Manuel said
Hi Guys,

 

I have the opportunity to look at and purchase a model 63 in WRF with 3 cases of ammo.  What is the going rate for one of these.  I don’t know condition, but will later today.

Thanks,

Manuel

  

Are you sure it’s a WRF?

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i didn’t think they made the 63 in WRF. 

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I stand corrected…..I went and looked at the rifle and its in 22 Automatic.  I was told it was WRF…..

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22 automatic ammo is not easy to find.  I did look online and there is some for sale.  I’d buy all you can afford. 

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Chuck said
22 automatic ammo is not easy to find.  I did look online and there is some for sale.  I’d buy all you can afford. 

  

I would consider buying it but there is no condition and the seller wants 1500……Although it does come with ammo…….WRF!!!  He bought the wrong ammo for it!

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Manuel said

Chuck said

22 automatic ammo is not easy to find.  I did look online and there is some for sale.  I’d buy all you can afford. 

  

I would consider buying it but there is no condition and the seller wants 1500……Although it does come with ammo…….WRF!!!  He bought the wrong ammo for it!

  

I don’t know anything about the value of a 63 but I do know something about WRF ammo.  It is not as hard to find most of the time like the 22 auto.  WRF is not cheap anymore so you should be able to sell it.

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What do you mean by .22 automatic?  If you mean .22 Win. autoloading – yes – that is not easy to find.  I’m not much of a .22 guy but I didn’t think the Win. M63 came in .22 auto.  Are you sure it’s not a M03?  The M63 and 03 rifles look similar.

As far as the multiple cases of ammo – how much ammo is in a “case”.  I assume you mean a brick of 500?  And we need to know more about the ammo to suggest a value.  I assume it is not vintage ammo. For example, mint bricks of vintage .22 WRF ammo would be very desirable.  And an actual “case” of it – that would be something.

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What do you mean by .22 automatic?  If you mean .22 Win. autoloading – yes – that is not easy to find.  I’m not much of a .22 guy but I didn’t think the Win. M63 came in .22 auto.  Are you sure it’s not a M03?  The M63 and 03 rifles look similar.

  

You are absolutely correct Steve.  Model 03 uses the automatic ammo.  Shows how little I know about modern 22’s.

Manual needs to see the barrel address of this rifle to make sure what the seller really has.

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You are probably right taht it is an 03 vs a 63.  I have no knowledge of the .22s of winchester.  And Steve, you are correct, it is the boxes of 250 rounds made in the 90’s i believe.  He has 3 of them for a total of 750. If i can purchase just the ammo, i will.  The rifle, not in my wheel house.

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The Winchester ammo was reproduced in 1986 and twice in the 1990’s.  1994 and I think 1997?  They are all worth the same.

The CCI’s are cheaper.

 

https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/winchester-rimfire/6-69.html

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Just to sum it up. The 1903 / 03 is Winchester Automatic.

Model 63 is 22 Long Rifle.

 

Winchester Rim Fire ammo is a completely different cartridge from the 2 above.

As is the 22 Extra Long. 

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steve004 said I assume you mean a brick of 500?   

A brick is a brick.  A CASE is 10 bricks–5000 rds.

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clarence said

steve004 said I assume you mean a brick of 500?   

A brick is a brick.  A CASE is 10 bricks–5000 rds.

  

This is why I was initially quite intrigued.  He mentioned three cases, which would be 15,000 rounds!

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It appears whoever is selling the rifle and the ammunition doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

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Steven Gabrielli said
Just to sum it up. The 1903 / 03 is Winchester Automatic.

Model 63 is 22 Long Rifle.

 

Winchester Rim Fire ammo is a completely different cartridge from the 2 above.

As is the 22 Extra Long. 

  

Exactly, except that the 63 barrel is marked “Super Speed & Super X” and is not reliable with standard velocity 22LR. The history of the Model 1903/63 and their respective cartridges is explained in more detail in an article in the spring Collector. I also wrote a bit about T. C. Johnson, their inventor. Fascinating gentleman.

 

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What do you mean by .22 automatic?  If you mean .22 Win. autoloading – yes – that is not easy to find.  I’m not much of a .22 guy but I didn’t think the Win. M63 came in .22 auto.  Are you sure it’s not a M03?  The M63 and 03 rifles look similar.

As far as the multiple cases of ammo – how much ammo is in a “case”.  I assume you mean a brick of 500?  And we need to know more about the ammo to suggest a value.  I assume it is not vintage ammo. For example, mint bricks of vintage .22 WRF ammo would be very desirable.  And an actual “case” of it – that would be something.

  

1 antique box of 50 rounds can cost you over $300.   I’ve seen modern bricks by other makers than Winchester and CCI over the years but wasn’t smart enough to buy them. 22-WRF.JPGImage Enlarger

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Target Sports USA just had WRF in stock, I bought a few hundred and I don’t even own the Rifle

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I have a full brick of Remington Special Kleanbore… does that count ?

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Bert, if it is WRF they all count.  One of my guns is a family gun and it has shot anything we could find over the past 99 years.

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