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At what serial number or date range did proof marks begin to be applied on Model 1894

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At what serial number or date range did proof marks begin to be applied on Model 1894

  

In April 1905 in the 26,400 serial range (per Bert in a previous post) – (should be 264,000 range)

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Burt Humphrey said

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At what serial number or date range did proof marks begin to be applied on Model 1894

  

In April 1905 in the 26,400 serial range (per Bert in a previous post)

  

I think a zero fell out in the 1905 s/n. It should read around 264,000.

I have a barrel that was attached to a receiver in the 254,000 block that was proof marked based on photos I saw. It’s still within striking distance of Bert’s guidance.

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I can’t find Bert’s previous posts regarding the proof marks. Any link?

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Alaska94 said

Burt Humphrey said

antler1 said

At what serial number or date range did proof marks begin to be applied on Model 1894

  

In April 1905 in the 26,400 serial range (per Bert in a previous post)

  

I think a zero fell out in the 1905 s/n. It should read around 264,000.

I have a barrel that was attached to a receiver in the 254,000 block that was proof marked based on photos I saw. It’s still within striking distance of Bert’s guidance.

  

Correct – 264,000 s/n range – Pat – I found the previous post from Bert in a “proof mark” search. One zero off is not bad for my old eyes.

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This is the best answer I can provide at this time…  All serial numbers > 270700 have proof marks.  If anyone has a Model 1894 in the range shown, please feel free to provide the details so that I can add it to the list.

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Thanks Bert. As always you provide a wealth of knowledge that we all appreciate

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Ser#.270459 is proofed. Ser#. 266003 is not proofed

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antler1 said
Thanks Bert. As always you provide a wealth of knowledge that we all appreciate

  

You are welcomeCool

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Henry Mero said
Ser#.270459 is proofed. Ser#. 266003 is not proofed

  

Thanks.  Do you have the received in warehouse date for both S/Ns ?Cool

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Bert H. said

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Thanks Bert. As always you provide a wealth of knowledge that we all appreciate

  

You are welcomeCool

  

Amen to that – in the final years of his life, my old friend Tommy Rholes was saying fakery would ruin Winchester collecting if not kept in-check. It is so easy to get fooled, even if you have been collecting a long time. Over the years Bert has saved a lot of  guys a lot of money by sharing his knowledge.

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Not 10 minutes after my last post here, I read the post on the Model 70 which knowledgeable guys know is not right. There is just too much money in nice guns for the fakery to ever stop. Every day guys are tucking away guns, especially from auctions, which are not right. Do your best to stay educated and get help from guys that are willing to share their knowledge.

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Thanks, that helps a lot.Cool  

My theory at this point is that June 1905 was the “tipping” point for proof marked vs. not proof marked as it applies to the Model 1894.

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