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Reagan Russey
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March 6, 2016 - 7:55 pm
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 Can some one tell me when Winchester started putting Model 94 on the barrels and not 1894 on the tang?  I’m guessing about 1920…?

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Hello Reagan,

The transition that you are asking about occurred in April of 1928. Winchester made the change from the Type 5/5A upper tang marking to the Type 6 marking very near serial number 1020000, April 2, 1928, and with the Type 6 tang marking, the Model “94” designation was moved to the barrel.

The transition from the “1894” (Type 4) tang marking to the “94” (Type 5) tang marking took place as a result of a change of manufacture order notice that was issued early in the year 1919. It took several months before it was fully implemented, and there was an intermix of Type 4 and Type 5 upper tang markings as late as January 1920.

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 Bert, thanks a lot.  I thought that was about the time of the change.

BTW, I have a friend in Wyoming that has a 1894 carbine passed down in his family, serial number 621xxx, in .30 WCF.  It has a protective cap treaded onto the end of the barrel.  Nobody we have talked to seems to know anything about it…including Cody.  My guess is it was for a silencer and the cap was used for when the silencer was not in use to protect the treads and crown.  Do you happen to know if Winchester ever made this an option.  This is just one of those things that keeps you wondering…LOL.

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Winchester did equipment a very small number of Model 1894s with a Maxim Silencer, but it is very rare to find one of them. Most of the Winchesters found with an outside threaded barrel for a silencer were altered aftermarket.

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Thanks Bert

The tread cap on the 1894 carbine my friend has apparently is very rare.  You are the first person to acknowledge anything like this ever existed that he has found.  I would like to attach a photo or two of the gun for you to see.  Might be interesting.   

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You can send pictures to me at [email protected]

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Sent you some photos of the 1984 and 94 carbines.  Hope you get them ok.

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I will check my email shortly. It always helps if the subject line in email messages has “Winchester” in it.

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Bert H. said
Hello Reagan,
The transition that you are asking about occurred in April of 1928. Winchester made the change from the Type 5/5A upper tang marking to the Type 6 marking very near serial number 1020000, April 2, 1928, and with the Type 6 tang marking, the Model “94” designation was moved to the barrel.
The transition from the “1894” (Type 4) tang marking to the “94” (Type 5) tang marking took place as a result of a change of manufacture order notice that was issued early in the year 1919. It took several months before it was fully implemented, and there was an intermix of Type 4 and Type 5 upper tang markings as late as January 1920.
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Hello, Bert,

I’ve been perusing threads and came across this one. I  may have something of an oddity as my 1925 mfr SRC has the Type 5 tang marking and is also marked Model 94 on the barrel. I pulled the forearm and mag tube, the barrel appears to be 1925 production as well, which doesn’t quite fit with what you described.

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Interesting… I suspect that the transition of the barrel marking change took place over a slightly longer time period than I previously observed.

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