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August 9, 2022
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Hello,
I apologize, I’m not as familiar with Winchester lever rifles as I am enthusiastic.
Perhaps some of the authorities on Winchesters can tell me more about what I just bought.
Description as follows:
This is a classic Winchester 1892 trapper carbine chambered in 44 WCF (44-40). It features a 16-inch barrel, 7-round magazine tube, saddle ring, adjustable rear sight, and blade front sight. Overall, this Winchester is in good condition with normal age-related finish wear throughout the barrel, receiver, and stock. The metal was refinished at some point. Bore condition is good with well-defined rifling. Based on serial range, this Winchester was manufactured in 1925.
Price was reasonable and appropriate for a refinished rifle, so I’m not worried that I got burned, but I’m curious if there is still interest in a refinished rifle given the “trapper” configuration and if some more knowledgeable collectors would be interested in volunteering their thoughts about this particular rifle and about production numbers and history of the short carbines.
Many thanks
December 21, 2006
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We need some pictures and a ser#
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
August 9, 2022
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SN is 951794
Unfortunately the pictures I posted are all I have available until I receive the rifle
November 2, 2009
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Yes, we need more pics. From what I see, it looks like a nice little carbine. Hard to tell, but the refinish looks well done, doesn’t look like the wood was touched either. Trappers are desirable and hard to find. Most have seen very hard use. Again, better pics may tell a different story, but from what I see, I like it, refinished or not. The value is now determined by what you paid for it.
August 9, 2022
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win4575 said
Yes, we need more pics. From what I see, it looks like a nice little carbine. Hard to tell, but the refinish looks well done, doesn’t look like the wood was touched either. Trappers are desirable and hard to find. Most have seen very hard use. Again, better pics may tell a different story, but from what I see, I like it, refinished or not. The value is now determined by what you paid for it.
Well, $1200 got me to bite, I don’t man see original ’92’s around at that price, refinished or not.
November 2, 2009
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As I said, unless more and better pictures tell a different story, you did very well. Please be sure to take good clear photos of the barrel address and caliber markings.
April 15, 2005
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Based on what I can see of the gun in the pictures you posted, the $1,200 price tag was a very reasonable price to pay. I personally would have sprained my hand trying to fish the money out of my pocket as fast as possible for that gun.
Bert
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August 9, 2022
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Bert H. said
Based on what I can see of the gun in the pictures you posted, the $1,200 price tag was a very reasonable price to pay. I personally would have sprained my hand trying to fish the money out of my pocket as fast as possible for that gun.
Bert
Thank you, Bert,
I’m looking forward to having it in hand so I can start digging into it. I did see it has a ladder sight. Was a 16″ barrel, and the ladder rear sight, considered special order options?
I appreciate everyone’s expertise
March 20, 2009
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Hello,
Thanks for the pics of your rifle. Please post more and clearer pics when you get it. Based on the pics you have I am not all that certain that the rifle has been refinished. Please include pics of the upper tang of the receiver just below the hammer and the W/P proof stamps on the top of the barrel and receiver. Based on the serial number the gun was manufactured during 1926. As you can see from the attached portion of my survey data Winchester made a large number of 44 WCF saddle ring carbines with a number being fitted with 16 inch barrels. These might rate as a bit uncommon but certainly not rare by any measure.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
April 15, 2005
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safestuffer said
Bert H. said
Based on what I can see of the gun in the pictures you posted, the $1,200 price tag was a very reasonable price to pay. I personally would have sprained my hand trying to fish the money out of my pocket as fast as possible for that gun.
Bert
Thank you, Bert,
I’m looking forward to having it in hand so I can start digging into it. I did see it has a ladder sight. Was a 16″ barrel, and the ladder rear sight, considered special order options?
I appreciate everyone’s expertise
The 16″ barrel was special order. The ladder sight was standard on all Carbines.
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July 14, 2016
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Anyone else having issues viewing the pictures? I can’t load them for some reason.
A man can never have too many WINCHESTERS...
April 15, 2005
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Chris D said
Anyone else having issues viewing the pictures? I can’t load them for some reason.
They load and view properly for me… try restarting your PC or device.
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July 14, 2016
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I had to click each individual thumbnail and then they loaded.
That trapper is a screamer! The muzzle detail picture shows originality.
Well done sir, congratulations!
Chris
A man can never have too many WINCHESTERS...
December 9, 2002
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I too find this carbine interesting, as we do understand how hard they are to find in any condition. I also am sitting on the fence, and anxious to see more pictures of it, to try to evaluate the originality of the finish, or not. It sure looks good to me.
Bert said,
Based on what I can see of the gun in the pictures you posted, the $1,200 price tag was a very reasonable price to pay. I personally would have sprained my hand trying to fish the money out of my pocket as fast as possible for that gun.
Bert
I agree with Bert, at the $1,200.00, price tag, as You can’t get hurt at that number!
I was able to view the pictures, but the two larger pics, which are nice to view, won’t allow me to X them out in the typical top right corner, as I had to go to the back button, and then after I was into the previously viewed post, I could click on the forward arrow, and go back to this post.
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May 4, 2025
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safestuffer said
Hello,
I apologize, I’m not as familiar with Winchester lever rifles as I am enthusiastic.
Perhaps some of the authorities on Winchesters can tell me more about what I just bought.
Description as follows:This is a classic Winchester 1892 trapper carbine chambered in 44 WCF (44-40). It features a 16-inch barrel, 7-round magazine tube, saddle ring, adjustable rear sight, and blade front sight. Overall, this Winchester is in good condition with normal age-related finish wear throughout the barrel, receiver, and stock. The metal was refinished at some point. Bore condition is good with well-defined rifling. Based on serial range, this Winchester was manufactured in 1925.
Price was reasonable and appropriate for a refinished rifle, so I’m not worried that I got burned, but I’m curious if there is still interest in a refinished rifle given the “trapper” configuration and if some more knowledgeable collectors would be interested in volunteering their thoughts about this particular rifle and about production numbers and history of the short carbines.
Many thanks
Where oh where did you find this beauty for that price 😮💨😮💨
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August 9, 2022
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Thanks to everyone for their help, it is surely appreciated.
The members here been such a help to me that I dont mind sharing that i bought this rifle and a few others through an online shop that periodically has consignment guns including vintage Winchesters for very reasonable prices. Members are.welcome to PM me for the shop name.
I hesitate to raise my hopes, im still going to assume that im looking at a very good refinish,
But enough people have chimed in with real tells that indicate.originality, such as the presence of factory polish marks and patchy bluing around the muzzle consistent with Winchester practices, but its all speculation until the rifle arrives in a few weeks.
For discussions sake,
If the Tom Sellick 1892 trapper sold for $50k as the finest example of an 1892 trapper known,
If original,
Where would you say this one compares to the Tom Sellick 1892?
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/81/84/winchester-model-1892-16-inch-barrel-trappers-carbine
March 20, 2009
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safestuffer said
Thanks to everyone for their help, it is surely appreciated.
The members here been such a help to me that I dont mind sharing that i bought this rifle and many others through an online shop that periodically has consignment guns including vintage Winchesters for very reasonable prices. Members are.welcome to PM me for the shop name.
I hesitate to raise my hopes, im still going to assume that im looking at a very good refinish,
But enough people have chimed in with real tells that indicate.originality, such as the presence of factory polish marks and patchy bluing around the muzzle consistent with Winchester practices, but its all speculation until the rifle arrives in a few weeks.
For discussions sake,
If the Tom Sellick 1892 trapper sold for $50k as the finest example of an 1892 trapper known,
If original,
Where would you say this one compares to the Tom Sellick 1892?
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/81/84/winchester-model-1892-16-inch-barrel-trappers-carbine
Most of the price for the RIA rifle is attributed to the fact that Tom Selleck owned the gun which to me is no big deal. He was just a guy from Detroit who played fictional characters in movies. Still put his pants on one leg at a time. The gun is certainly in nice condition but 16 inch saddle ring carbines in 44 WCF caliber are just not all that special. As I mentioned earlier 95% of 16 inch SRC’s are in 44 WCF caliber. Based on my survey data, and making some rough extrapolations, there were approximately 5000 16 inch 44 WCF SRC’s manufactured.
Here are some other sales at auction:
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4091/44/winchester-model-92-trapper-lever-action-carbine
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/73/3002/winchester-model-1892-lever-action-trapper-carbine
And maybe the only engraved 16 inch SRC!
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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