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July 31, 2005
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Serial number 819 has special order features but someone fraudulently engraved “One of One Hundred” on the barrel. This gun was not in the survey. I have entered it but made a note that it is a fake. It’s too bad someone decreased its collector value by faking the inscription.
I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder
April 30, 2023
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otherwise a nice gun! They very slyly added “engraving added” but at least it’s in the listing I guess. If you follow it, post back what price it went for!
November 7, 2015
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At least it’s a better quality fake than some of the “! of 1000” fakes we’ve seen. Can’t help but wonder what it would go for without the added engraving.
Mike
May 2, 2009
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That gun is next to serial 818 that is a 1 of 100.
Bob
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December 9, 2002
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Bill,
Thanks for educating the masses. The Letter sure tells the story, vs the write up, if a person is paying attention, but a seeker who might not know the particulars of a letter or familiar with the Cody letter, wouldn’t catch it, I suspect.
Interestingly enough on Waddy Colvert’s research letter, and on the bottom right is the yellow highlight words saying, “My Gun”, but I can’t tell if Waddy, or the owner that ordered the letter, from him, wrote it there!
The engraving looks pretty good to me, and looks like it’s been there awhile.
1873man said
That gun is next to serial 818 that is a 1 of 100.
Bob
Also interesting Bob.
Anthony
May 23, 2009
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Yeah I’d love to see what the actual entire ledger page looks like for that serial number is. That rifle right there certainly would need a lot more research and inspection inside and out. If its fake, its one of the bests ones out there. And yes you read that correctly and I said what I said.
I wonder if there is some scientific method out there for aging the oxidation rate for cuts in metal. That engraving certainly looks well aged.
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June 4, 2017
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I wonder what the bid will be 31 days from now? 15-20k? Forget the estimate. T/R
May 23, 2009
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TR said
I wonder what the bid will be 31 days from now? 15-20k? Forget the estimate. T/R
I’d say you are certainly in the ballpark with your estimate. I’ve seen plenty of other fake 1of1000s go for five figures.
It is still a nice Open Top 76 Rifle, regardless of the barrel.
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April 30, 2023
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I bookmarked it at Poulin so I can (hopefully) remember to post back the ending price. Maverick is right though, it’s well done IMO.
June 4, 2017
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Who buys a gun without doing a Google search on the gun? A fool. Google Winchester 1876 819 and see what you get. Google all your guns and see what you get. You might be surprised.
This gun, 819 will show up again, will it still be a 1 of 100 or will it be a 1876 deluxe, open top, set trigger, with a donor barrel and tube that matches the back half and now letters? What happens to the 1 of 100 barrel? I’m sure it will be seen again and a Google search of the next gun’s s/n will not show s/n 819 past history.
I’m pretty sure more 1 of 100s and 1 of 1000s exist today than Winchester made. T/R
April 30, 2023
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I just googled it and don’t see any callouts to that specific s/n…are you seeing results that point to discussions on 819 other than ours?
June 4, 2017
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Jeremy P said
I just googled it and don’t see any callouts to that specific s/n…are you seeing results that point to discussions on 819 other than ours?
No, on the IA overview it makes reference to the Winchester Forum post. That’s enough to mark that s/n forever.
Two very rare and historic Colts have recently sold, one high because two bidders knew the old Colt forum back story and bid it up. Another sold very cheap on Guns International because the seller didn’t know the historic history that showed up on a serial number search.
Information on what you sell and what you buy is important. T/R
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