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The wording description is all wrong for this carbine, the box is not original to the carbine and it’s not a flat band. I’d like to have some expert opinions to see if anything else that appears to be adulterating or otherwise not original to to the carbine.

Thanks for any information……. Len

 

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-lever-pre-64/high-condition-win-mod-94-carbine-late-pre-wwii-30-wcf.cfm?gun_id=100840552

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Len,

The link you supplied doesn’t go to the Winchester/auction you seem to be talking about.  No box.  No mention or sighting of a flat band.

(But the link does lead to a description that also appears to be a bit “wrong.”  

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Len,

The link you supplied doesn’t go to the Winchester/auction you seem to be talking about.  No box.  No mention or sighting of a flat band.

(But the link does lead to a description that also appears to be a bit “wrong.”    

I don’t understand why???I just tried the link from my OP and my bookmarks and it worked perfectly?? It’s on Guns International Guns International #: 100840552

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Looks to me to have been re-blued at some point. 

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It looks right to me, but the pictures are not the best, so I could be wrong.  The finish on the wood is pretty well worn, especially on the forearm.

James

 

Added:  I don’t see anything about a box or a flat band.

 

 High Condition WIN MOD 94 Carbine late Pre WWII 30 WCF High Condition WIN MOD 94 Carbine late Pre WWII 30 WCF 

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I guess I’m misunderstanding something here.  Just to try to set things at ease–

Is a box in a photo and/or in a description on the auction?

 

This is what I’m seeing on the linked auction.

There are 19 photos.

Guns International #: 100840552
Seller’s Inventory #: 0018

“Description:
Excellent MOD 94 MFG 1941.  Last of the Winchester marked tang, 98% original blue, with the loss being the bbl band, butt plate.  Fine wood with 99% original varnish.  Pre WWII-Collector Quality

Price: $1,575.00 PLUS $35 S/H”

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that’s what I’m seeing also.  No box, or mention of box, or flat band.

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Is this the auction?

WINCHESTER MODEL 94 FLAT BAND 30 W.C.F. RIFLE NIB 1949

 

Guns International #: 100840761
Seller’s Inventory #: 17-0005

Description:
Please read the Item Characteristics for important listing details.
You Are On A Very Rare Find, A NIB Pre 64 Winchester Rifle Model 94 Manufactured In 1949.Flatband: This Is When Winchester Created High Quality Pre 64 Winchesters. . . .Underside Of Stock See Photo # 12: Serial # Is (1668233) & Winchester Has Never Been Cycled or Molested In Anyway, This Is One Of A Kind, And Last Of The Mohican’s.

 

If it is this carbine you are asking about, I’d say don’t consider buying it.  Turn away and don’t look back.

The description is more of a history lesson than a discussion of the rifle’s condition.  And have you ever found an original condition Winchester “Never Been Cycled” for sale on one of these perpetual auction sites?  The last Mohican has been dust in the wind for at least a century.  Cloning might get him back, but he wouldn’t want to hunt with this refinished carbine–and he knows about smoke and mirrors from his early days in the forest.

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YES!!  That’s the M/94 I posted about……. I don’t know what went wrong I C&P the URL………… Thanks!!

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Quite obviously, the seller has no clue what he is talking about,

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