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Lou's M70 Super Grade school
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February 5, 2026 - 12:42 am
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Here a while back Lou gave a school’n on how easy it is to fake a Super Grade – I am looking for that, not to fake one, but things to look out for. Can anyone point me in the right direction to find that?

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Well if you find the schooling materials let me know …maybe an offline share? 

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I remember Lou’s post, it reinforced my resolve to pursue other Winchester models even though I’ll always be interested in the Model 70. I may be able to talk myself into a standard grade someday if the price and situation coincide with available funds but the illicit upgrade seemed to be a relatively simple operation and if done correctly would take a very practiced eye to detect, if at all. 

 

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Hey Guys-

I post too much as it is…  Usually while drunk and pissed off (at things in general)…  I express many opinions, some of which I’ll stand by in the morning…  Laugh

This might be the thread you’re referencing?  Let me know if this is the one you’re thinking of.  If not, I’ll look again…

https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/late-pre-64-70-super-grade-featherweight/

The thing is that prior to 1955, all you need to “make” a Super Grade is a stock, floor plate, and front sight.  There ARE subtle period changes that you should (I would) expect to see and that help narrow down the DOM of the SG specific parts, but that really is a “school lesson”…  For example, a floor plate that’s “correct” on a 1942 Super Grade should not be on a 1937 Super Grade.  There’s more to it than the presence/absence of a “Helvetica ‘G'” (Both should have that “G”).  There are other differences…  

Hope this helps… 

Lou

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One rule to remember.  Most if not all Super Grade Carbines at on time were Pre War Super Grade .30Gov’t06 rifles.😁

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