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Hi,
First post here. Seeking opinions on this new to me gun. Sorry, but I know just enough to be dangerous. My previous two 1873’s were not near this nice so I’m not 100% sure what I’ve bought here. I don’t think it is refinished but it just looks too nice a condition to me and the case coloring looks suspicious and it looks to have a lacquer coating? Looking for objective critiques (won’t hurt my feelings) and maybe value if anyone cares to throw one out. ps. It does not have a cleaning rod compartment like my previous examples. When did they stop this? Serial number 423###B Thanks
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As a guest you have to post the picture to a host site and then put a link to it in the post. or you can send the picture to me at the address below and I can post them. Also what is the full serial number?
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
stavok said I don’t think it is refinished but it just looks too nice a condition to me and the case coloring looks suspicious and it looks to have a lacquer coating?
Honestly, the lacquer should have been a big red flag. Any gun that looks “too nice” to be original generally isn’t.
clarence said
stavok said I don’t think it is refinished but it just looks too nice a condition to me and the case coloring looks suspicious and it looks to have a lacquer coating?
Honestly, the lacquer should have been a big red flag. Any gun that looks “too nice” to be original generally isn’t.
Yup, I hear ya. Trying to get the pictures posted…..
Here are the pictures of 423547 . It had a bad restore job. The time to ask question if a gun is correct is before you buy it.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
1873man said
Here are the pictures. It had a bad restore job. The time to ask question if a gun is correct is before you buy it.Bob
Price was $3250. Everything looked too crisp to cause it to be refinished (to my amature eye anyway). Hell, from what I’ve seen auction results, I can strip the refinish and it’s still worth the price??? I can back out and loose $100 deposit at worst. Should I back out?
You should definitely back out. The $100 is not as bad as losing the $3250
A man can never have too many WINCHESTERS...
Well, now that I can zoom in on the photos, I’m not liking that lettering. Lesson: bring your reading glasses when gun shopping!
You can strip it but you will still be left with the homemade model stamp on the upper tang and I assume the serial number has been restamped as well. The gun is not worth it even stripped. You have to be happy with what you got.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
For 3250 you could of gotten a original 32 with quite a bit of blue.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
A huge and heartfelt thank you to Bob and the forum. A valuable resource that is most appreciated!
Should the seller want to renegotiate, what would be a fair price- or should I just run away from this lipsticked pig?
It’s better to put your money in a original gun.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
ps. It does not have a cleaning rod compartment like my previous examples. stavok said
Wood hasn’t merely been refinished–it’s a replacement.
clarence said
ps. It does not have a cleaning rod compartment like my previous examples. stavok said
Wood hasn’t merely been refinished–it’s a replacement.
That explains why it is in such good condition! He had a couple other 1873’s that were pretty beat up but (also) none of them had cleaning rod compartments- so should all 1873’s have a cleaning rod compartment?
No, 32 caliber and the 22 calibers did not have cleaning rod trapdoors in the butt plate even thou all stocks were drilled with the hole for the rods. Send me the serial number so I can add it to my survey of 73’s
Bob
stavok said
That explains why it is in such good condition! He had a couple other 1873’s that were pretty beat up but (also) none of them had cleaning rod compartments- so should all 1873’s have a cleaning rod compartment?
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
stavok said
A huge and heartfelt thank you to Bob and the forum. A valuable resource that is most appreciated!Should the seller want to renegotiate, what would be a fair price- or should I just run away from this lipsticked pig?
Fair price would only be fair if you’re OK with a non-original gun but I doubt they’d sell it for what any of us here would pay. For perspective I recently got the same gun, 32 caliber but with fancy wood stocks/half mag and (maybe) special order sights for $2600, with some orig bluing in a local auction. This one is nowhere close to a pristine gun that would bring $xx,xxx but you can get nice original ones for decent money. I’d pass and spend that money on a nice original if you have it in your budget, which I assume you do since you were looking at this one!
Got my deposit back. Seller was pretty upset but then again was crabby from the beginning. Claimed to be an expert and said rifle was not refinished so will likely try to pass off again as original. All in, it cost me a few gallons of gas and a couple hours of time but the education was “priceless”. Serial number was 423547B. I can’t attest 100% that is correct as I forgot my readers (big lesson learned) and someone else had to read the number- but I have no reason to doubt it was correct. Sale was in Loveland, CO. Seller had a ton of other cool stuff but everything was overpriced so nothing lost as far as future purchases.
Bob, can you edit the title to include the serial number so as to increase the chances a prospective future buyer will see it?
Thanks again to the members who commented and to Bob and the forum for the education and grief you all saved me!!! All the best….
stavok said
Got my deposit back. Seller was pretty upset but then again was crabby from the beginning. Claimed to be an expert and said rifle was not refinished so will likely try to pass off again as original. All in, it cost me a few gallons of gas and a couple hours of time but the education was “priceless”. Serial number was 423547B. I can’t attest 100% that is correct as I forgot my readers (big lesson learned) and someone else had to read the number- but I have no reason to doubt it was correct. Sale was in Loveland, CO. Seller had a ton of other cool stuff but everything was overpriced so nothing lost as far as future purchases.Bob, can you edit the title to include the serial number so as to increase the chances a prospective future buyer will see it?
Thanks again to the members who commented and to Bob and the forum for the education and grief you all saved me!!! All the best….
Glad it worked out for you. I hope you keep coming back. There’s a lot that can be learned here.
stavok said Claimed to be an expert and said rifle was not refinished so will likely try to pass off again as original.
Likely? You think?
Stavok,
Glad it worked out for you. If the seller truly believes it is original, the asking price would of been a lot higher. I can’t change the post title but i can edit my post with the pictures. I checked the serial and it didn’t show up in my survey of 73’s so it now in there.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
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