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January 28, 2023 - 2:35 am
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I have found something interesting to me.

 

1892, crescent butt plate, 24 inch octagon barrel, takedown model, and it has the stud and a saddle ring on it.

 

Part of me thinks it’s a Frankengun of some derivation, but the price I am told I can get it for would make it worth it just as a shooter.  However, it might be worth lettering it if there is any chance at all that combo of options might be factory.

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Some pics and the serial number would help. If CFM has record of your Frankenchester an inquiry may shed some light on things. Depending on the pedigree this rifle may not even make a good shooter, caveat emptor. 

 

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What is the serial number on it?

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CFM will not have info on this rifle. Good pics may help determine what you have.

 

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I don’t truly know if it’s a frankenchester, but the combinations of options struck me as a strange grouping.

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It sounds like a standard rifle ordered in takedown version.  With the exception of a sling ring.  This was an, “extra” available as an option.  We have seen other rifles such as M1876, M1886 and M1894’s that have been ordered with sling rings.  It is entirely possible.  As mentioned, it’s too late in manufacture to letter, so a physical examination is required.  Even with a physical examination, it will always be a matter of opinion as to whether the rifle was shipped with the ring and stud from the factory.  There are many clues (e.g. ring shadow, and examination of the threaded tap hole etc.) that can have a bearing – particularly in the quick ruling out of legitimacy.  I’d love to see photos.  If it is essentially at a shooter’s price, hasn’t been reblued and is an appealing/attractive rifle, I’d likely be pursuing it.  

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Hello,

It is obviously a fake.  The staple mount for the ring is not positioned correctly.

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It is obviously a fake.  The staple mount for the ring is not positioned correctly.

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Nice call on the staple Michael. I had to go pull a 1892 from the one of the safes to see it. Some people will go to no ends to fake a Winchester.

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This is THE place to come to for answers on Winchesters Cool

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Thanks for the info. The staple didn’t look right, but I couldn’t tell it was wrong.

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