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Pretty spectacular. Seems odd that it’s chambered for 38-55 but I suppose it wasn’t intended to be shot. That’s OK, I load that cartridge too! If Bert buys it he might let me shoot it. 😉

 

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TXGunNut said
 Seems odd that it’s chambered for 38-55 but I suppose it wasn’t intended to be shot.

Though it was built for an exhibition, according to Campbell’s description, it was relatively “plain,” as exhibition guns go–no engraving, gold plating, etc.  Wonder what the explanation might be for the unusual number of R&Rs?  Merely wear & tear as it was exhibited in different venues?  Or possibly shooting?

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I had my hands on that rifle less than 5-minutes after Steve Day bought it a the WACA Cody show a number of years ago.  It is the very first “Schuetzen” Rifle that Winchester manufactured, and the reason it has the multiple “R&R” entries is because it was logged in and out of the warehouse for each exposition it was sent to.  Winchester used it to advertise the then brand new Schuetzen Rifle variation.  Prior to this rifle, the “Special Single Shot Rifle” was the highest grade Single Shot. 

The First Model Schuetzen Rifles were initially chambered for the 38-55, then in 32-40, and there were (2) made in 22 Short. There were only (49) First Model Schuetzen Rifles manufactured.  When the 2nd Model Schuetzen Rifle was introduced, they were mostly 32-40 or 22 Short.  Thus far, I have documented (433) Second Model Schuetzens, and (83) Third Model Schuetzens.

One of these days in the not so distant future, I will put together an article for the WACA Collector magazine with the production statistics for the Schuetzen Rifles.

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TXGunNut said
Pretty spectacular. Seems odd that it’s chambered for 38-55 but I suppose it wasn’t intended to be shot. That’s OK, I load that cartridge too! If Bert buys it he might let me shoot it. 😉

 

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Mike, what’s wrong with 38-55 caliber? 

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That’s a beautiful single shot. 

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Bert H. said
 It is the very first “Schuetzen” Rifle that Winchester manufactured, and the reason it has the multiple “R&R” entries is because it was logged in and out of the warehouse for each exposition it was sent to.

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Since the bore description indicates it has been shot, & probably more than a few times, is there reason to think it might have been shot in competition by Laudensack or some other factory rep?

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clarence said

Since the bore description indicates it has been shot, & probably more than a few times, is there reason to think it might have been shot in competition by Laudensack or some other factory rep?  

I do not have an answer for that question.  That stated, because it was an “exposition” piece, I doubt that it was shot in competition.  However, one can never know what the true history of a rifle this old is.

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How much is the “POR” part?

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How much is the “POR” part?  

My guess is something North of $35K

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The Marlin Ballard calibers, 38-55 and 32-40, were used often it competition.

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