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At 80 years, I have exactly 204 guns. This is one of my prized M1892’s.

I need a value on it. 1911 vintage, 44-40, full octagon rifle, mint bore. Receiver has the usual flaking, but the rest is real nice.                                                What say you folks?    Big Larry

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At my go to LGS I’ve seen nice 92’s like yours for $2,000 to $2,300. Whether they sell or not I don’t know. I’ve sold about 30 Model 94’s all pre WW2 and as far back has 1905 year. The LGS has some good repeat clients that buy Early Winchesters all the time. 

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Big Larry saidReceiver has the usual flaking, but the rest is real nice.  

What flaking?

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At my go to LGS I’ve seen nice 92’s like yours for $2,000 to $2,300.

  

In .44-40?  Makes a diff.

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At my go to LGS I’ve seen nice 92’s like yours for $2,000 to $2,300. Whether they sell or not I don’t know. I’ve sold about 30 Model 94’s all pre WW2 and as far back has 1905 year. The LGS has some good repeat clients that buy Early Winchesters all the time. 

  

If your LGS is selling Winchester Model 1892 44 WCF Sporting Rifles in the same condition as the one Big Larry is asking about for just $2,300, I will take the next DOZEN they have for sale… seriously!!

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Big Larry said
At 80 years, I have exactly 204 guns. This is one of my prized M1892’s.

I need a value on it. 1911 vintage, 44-40, full octagon rifle, mint bore. Receiver has the usual flaking, but the rest is real nice.                                                What say you folks?    Big Larry

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Can you post better pictures (e.g. close-ups of both sides of the receiver frame and the factory markings on the barrel and receiver tang) ?

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Big Larry said
At 80 years, I have exactly 204 guns. This is one of my prized M1892’s.

I need a value on it. 1911 vintage, 44-40, full octagon rifle, mint bore. Receiver has the usual flaking, but the rest is real nice.                                                What say you folks?    Big Larry

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Larry – that is a beautiful rifle and it has the magic .44-40 chambering going for it.  Inquiring about the value of something is a quandary.  I would pay way more than the $2,000 to $2,300 quoted above, but I am at the end of my active collecting.  That means someone else would likely pay more than me.  Estimating what someone else will pay for something is much harder than what I would pay.  How you plan to disburse you rifles is a factor.  Ads in the classified section here, gunbroker, smaller auction house, larger auction house, gunsinternational, tables at gunshows, etc., these are all ways people sell their collections.  These different methods do not deliver the same results.  I often follow what Austinsguns and Chayns rifles sell for on gunbroker.  Were this rifle listed by either of them, I would say it would sell for over $5,000 and I wouldn’t be surprised if it sold for quite a bit more than that.

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Knowing how fastidious Larry has always been about the guns he collected, any of the big auction outfits would be delighted to swoop down & take them all, though I’d hate to see them sold that way; I hate the auction racket, & so I think does Larry.  Major question to decide is whether to sell all or most to a single dealer, the easiest way, or individually, the slowest but most profitable way.  Even if he could sell them through this website (highly unlikely), he’d be faced with the huge job of shipping them.

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Depends on age as Larry well knows, so I think maybe we are having our line jerked!  Last time Larry sold a gun was 1999!

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Thanks guys. I plan to give some of them away to my family and to sell some off individually while I am still kicking.

I think Steve’s valuation is more in keeping with the value of my rifle. I too was thinking $5,000. Last gun show I attended I saw two for $4,500, one had swivels added and the other was not as nice as mine. Yes, at $2,500, for a 44-40 as nice as mine, I would be at my bank to float a loan to buy as many as I could.

I am not going to take more pics. The receiver is flaked, but not all that bad. It has most of its blue on the bbl. and lever. Actually. as M1892’s go, this is a very nice one. I also have a lettered 1901 vintage round bbl. 44-40 that is nicer than this one. Also, I will be selling a 44-40 1925 vintage SRC, and a very low #rd M53 als1906-SRC.JPGImage Enlargero in the coveted 44-40. None are cheap and not close to $2,500. I am getting some very high figures from Larry Shennum and Berts Redbook. Thanks, Big Larry

 

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Big Larry said
Thanks guys. I plan to give some of them away to my family and to sell some off individually while I am still kicking.

I think Steve’s valuation is more in keeping with the value of my rifle. I too was thinking $5,000. Last gun show I attended I saw two for $4,500, one had swivels added and the other was not as nice as mine. Yes, at $2,500, for a 44-40 as nice as mine, I would be at my bank to float a loan to buy as many as I could.

I am not going to take more pics. The receiver is flaked, but not all that bad. It has most of its blue on the bbl. and lever. Actually. as M1892’s go, this is a very nice one. I also have a lettered 1901 vintage round bbl. 44-40 that is nicer than this one. Also, I will be selling a 44-40 1925 vintage SRC, and a very low #rd M53 als1906-SRC.JPGImage Enlargero in the coveted 44-40. None are cheap and not close to $2,500. I am getting some very high figures from Larry Shennum and Berts Redbook. Thanks, Big Larry

 

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Larry – what chambering is the Model 64?  From reading your posts, I know for sure it is not a .32 Special, but there are three other possibilities.

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Anybody who’d haul them to Vegas or Reno for you?  Enough to fill one table.  Selling them at a show solves the problem of shipping.  If priced slightly under Red Book values, say 10% less, few would be returning.  Holding out for Leroy Merz prices means a slow go.

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Thanks guys. I plan to give some of them away to my family and to sell some off individually while I am still kicking.

I think Steve’s valuation is more in keeping with the value of my rifle. I too was thinking $5,000. Last gun show I attended I saw two for $4,500, one had swivels added and the other was not as nice as mine. Yes, at $2,500, for a 44-40 as nice as mine, I would be at my bank to float a loan to buy as many as I could.

I am not going to take more pics. The receiver is flaked, but not all that bad. It has most of its blue on the bbl. and lever. Actually. as M1892’s go, this is a very nice one. I also have a lettered 1901 vintage round bbl. 44-40 that is nicer than this one. Also, I will be selling a 44-40 1925 vintage SRC, and a very low #rd M53 als1906-SRC.JPGImage Enlargero in the coveted 44-40. None are cheap and not close to $2,500. I am getting some very high figures from Larry Shennum and Berts Redbook. Thanks, Big Larry

 

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Larry – what chambering is the Model 64?  From reading your posts, I know for sure it is not a .32 Special, but there are three other possibilities.

  

It’s a 30-30. 98%++ and has its original sight cover.   Big Larry

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Anybody who’d haul them to Vegas or Reno for you?  Enough to fill one table.  Selling them at a show solves the problem of shipping.  If priced slightly under Red Book values, say 10% less, few would be returning.  Holding out for Leroy Merz prices means a slow go.

  

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Anybody who’d haul them to Vegas or Reno for you?  Enough to fill one table.  Selling them at a show solves the problem of shipping.  If priced slightly under Red Book values, say 10% less, few would be returning.  Holding out for Leroy Merz prices means a slow go.

  

I would give plenty to be able to do a show in Vegas or Reno. I do not have any local friends to help me or I would do a show. That’s where the big bucks are. I had tables in both locations and always did well, selling and buying. Come on out here and help me. Big Larry

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Thanks guys. I plan to give some of them away to my family and to sell some off individually while I am still kicking.

I think Steve’s valuation is more in keeping with the value of my rifle. I too was thinking $5,000. Last gun show I attended I saw two for $4,500, one had swivels added and the other was not as nice as mine. Yes, at $2,500, for a 44-40 as nice as mine, I would be at my bank to float a loan to buy as many as I could.

I am not going to take more pics. The receiver is flaked, but not all that bad. It has most of its blue on the bbl. and lever. Actually. as M1892’s go, this is a very nice one. I also have a lettered 1901 vintage round bbl. 44-40 that is nicer than this one. Also, I will be selling a 44-40 1925 vintage SRC, and a very low #rd M53 als1906-SRC.JPGImage Enlargero in the coveted 44-40. None are cheap and not close to $2,500. I am getting some very high figures from Larry Shennum and Berts Redbook. Thanks, Big Larry

 

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Larry – what chambering is the Model 64?  From reading your posts, I know for sure it is not a .32 Special, but there are three other possibilities.

  

It’s a 30-30. 98%++ and has its original sight cover.   Big Larry

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I would give plenty to be able to do a show in Vegas or Reno. I do not have any local friends to help me or I would do a show. That’s where the big bucks are. I had tables in both locations and always did well, selling and buying. Come on out here and help me. Big Larry

 

If I weren’t almost as stove up as you are, I would.

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Isn’t selling to Merz or Grove or any other “dealer” like the auction houses? None of them are going to do Larry any favors.

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Isn’t selling to Merz or Grove or any other “dealer” like the auction houses? None of them are going to do Larry any favors.

  

Due to differences of opinions, I would not do business with either mentioned. I am going to list one at a time, after my friends get theirs. Any left over will go to my family, which by the way, are all gun nuts.  Big Larry

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Big Larry said

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Isn’t selling to Merz or Grove or any other “dealer” like the auction houses? None of them are going to do Larry any favors.

  

Due to differences of opinions, I would not do business with either mentioned. I am going to list one at a time, after my friends get theirs. Any left over will go to my family, which by the way, are all gun nuts.  Big Larry

  

Good for you Larry. Please see my pm

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oldcrankyyankee said

Big Larry said

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Isn’t selling to Merz or Grove or any other “dealer” like the auction houses? None of them are going to do Larry any favors.

  

Due to differences of opinions, I would not do business with either mentioned. I am going to list one at a time, after my friends get theirs. Any left over will go to my family, which by the way, are all gun nuts.  Big Larry

  

Good for you Larry. Please see my pm

  

I’ll bet oldcranky is wondering if you have any 86’s  Laugh

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I’ve done business with Leroy and I was very happy with what I got.  I have never done business with Don.  I have seen these guys at many dozens of gun shows over the last 30+ years.  If either had something I wanted I would try to make a deal.  Deals just don’t always work out for whatever the reason.  If someone has a good gun but wants too much money I try to barter but at some point you may have to walk away. I’ve found that if you are persistent in your search you will eventually find what you want at a price you can live with.

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