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I came across a Model 1894 I was given to me in the mid 1970’s by my Grandfather and it recently surfaced (after 50+ years) and I’m trying to find out more about it and there’s some confusion about the date of its manufacture. The SN is 36965. I have seen it said that this is made in 1895 and another site says it is 1898. Can you clear that up for me?

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Using the look up tool on our very own WACA website, the date for your 1894 is 1898.

 

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Terry,

Unfortunately more than 90% of the Winchester DOM information you will find on the internet is grossly erroneous.

Per the original Winchester factory records, Model 1894 S/N 36965 was manufactured in March 1898.

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Thanks for that. The serial number ending the year 1895 is 44,359 though. Either way it meets the criteria for an official (pre-1899). Colour me confused.

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Terry,

I published the table below shown below 15-years ago.  The Year ending serial numbers in the PRSRB column were derived directly from the original Winchester records in possession of the Cody Firearms Museum records office.  It was George Madis that published the erroneous information (back in 1980) that you apparently found and are referring to.

The Model 1894 Polishing Room Serialization Record Books vs. G. Madis
 
Year PRSRB G. Madis Difference Annual Production
1894 1674 14759 -13,085 1674
1895 14222 44359 -30,137 12,548
1896 18571 76464 -57,893 4,349
1897 33108 111453 -78,345 14,537
1898 53941 147684 -93,743 20,833
1899 80148 183371 -103,223 26,207
1900 103932 204427 -100,495 23,784
1901 137058 233975 -96,917 33,126
1902 168420 273854 -105,434 31,362
1903 204565 291506 -86,941 36,145
1904 249782 311363 -61,581 45,217
1905 291706 337557 -45,851 41,924
1906 331895 378878 -46,983 40,189
1907 381524 430985 -49,461 49,629
1908 429757 474241 -44,484 48,233
1909 449102 505831 -56,729 19,345
1910 479073 553062 -73,989 29,971
1911 534429 599263 -64,834 55,356
1912 591281 646114 -54,833 56,852
1913 645304 703701 -58,397 54,023
1914 722280 756066 -33,786 76,976
1915 825186 784052 41,134 102,906
1916 840846 807741 33,105 15,660
1917 873425 821972 51,453 32,579
1918 882032 838175 43,857 8,607
1919 895365 870762 24,603 13,333
1920 926851 880627 46,224 31,486
1921 935778 908318 27,460 8,927
1922 951501 919583 31,918 15,723
1923 964709 938539 26,170 13,208
1924 974121 953198 20,923 9,412
1925 987148 978523 8,625 13,027
1926 997938 997603 335 10,790
1927 1012753 1027571 -14,818 14,815
1928 1038665 1054465 -15,800 25,912
1929 1060899 1077097 -16,198 22,234
1930 1071420 1081755 -10,335 10,521
1931 1079689 1084156 -4,467 8,269
1932 1088141 1087836 305 8,452
1933 1092328 1089271 3,057 4,187
1934 1095364 1091192 4,172 3,036
1935 1099625 1099608 17 4,261
1936 1119104 1112194 6,910 19,479
1937 1158835 1138781 20,054 39,731
1938 1198405 1169370 29,035 39,570
1939 1216165 1197211 18,954 17,760
1940 1259563 1238584 20,979 43,398
1941 1313301 1287468 25,833 53,738
1942 1343183 1317449 25,734 29,882

 

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WOW! Not just a little erroneous. Bert you are a font of information. Thank-you.

Now, my wife has her grandmother’s Winchester pump (sliding) action .22 Model 62. Do you know of a site for this rifle? SN 3947

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Terry,

The information you are looking for is right on this website. From the home page, go to “Resources” then to “When Was Your Winchester Made?”  Then type in the model and serial number and click “Get Manufacturing Date.”

https://winchestercollector.org/dates/

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Terry Amiel said
WOW! Not just a little erroneous. Bert you are a font of information. Thank-you.

Now, my wife has her grandmother’s Winchester pump (sliding) action .22 Model 62. Do you know of a site for this rifle? SN 3947

Terry  

May 1932.

The look-up resource tool on our WACA website was set-up to provide the year of manufacture only.  Year ago I created Excel tables for all of the Winchester models that have surviving factory records that break the serial numbers down to the month & year of manufacture.

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