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Engraved silver plated 1866
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Tedk
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August 1, 2024 - 1:37 pm
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Tedk said
Who determined and how was it determined the gun is solid silver? Factory letter? Would love to see pics of the gun

  

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I agree with Tedk.  A lot of “talk” about a gun we have yet to see.  Where are the pictures?

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wolfbait said
I made the mistake of saying silver plated, the 1866 being discussed is actually solid silver.

  

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They did make a solid silver 66 frame for the the President of Peru, but I don’t think poster has this one!

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Bert H. said

wolfbait said

I made the mistake of saying silver plated, the 1866 being discussed is actually solid silver.

  

It is extremely unlikely for it to be solid silver.  If it truly is a solid silver receiver frame versus silver plated gunmetal (bronze), it would be a “one-of-a-kind” and worth a fortune!  Polishing it would be the absolute biggest mistake you could ever make with an antique firearm!!

Bert

  

I showed you this gun at the Big Reno show several years ago. My friend had it displayed.

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wolfbait said

Bert H. said

wolfbait said

I made the mistake of saying silver plated, the 1866 being discussed is actually solid silver.

  

It is extremely unlikely for it to be solid silver.  If it truly is a solid silver receiver frame versus silver plated gunmetal (bronze), it would be a “one-of-a-kind” and worth a fortune!  Polishing it would be the absolute biggest mistake you could ever make with an antique firearm!!

Bert

  

I showed you this gun at the Big Reno show several years ago. My friend had it displayed.

  

It had to have been more than several years ago… the last time I attended the Big Reno show was at least 8-years ago.  I do not remember seeing the gun in question?  I have looked at thousands of Winchesters in the past many years, and I very simply cannot remember all of them.  Please post (or send me) pictures of this Model 1866.

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It was about 8 years ago. We looked closely at the gun, examined the documentation, and discussed the gun. The frame, butt plate, and fore end cap are all solid silver. It was displayed for a few years in the NRA Firearms Museum. 

Long story about this, gun, out of privacy for the owner, I am not going to go into it on the internet. I understand that without seeing the as found condition of the gun, making a determination whether it should be cleaned is impossible. The initial question was very basic. Should a very tarnished silver gun be cleaned. I guess the answer is, it depends.

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Most probably wouldn’t agree with me, but if it is cleaned properly most people wouldn’t be able to tell its been cleaned. 

And if it truly is solid silver, I don’t think it would “physically” hurt a thing, but being silver plated is a different story.

The gun shown in Wilson’s book most likely has been cleaned at some point in its history.

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Here is a picture of a Sharps 22 that still has some silver left.  I’m never going to polish/remove any more. Same with the Remington.

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Yeah I wouldn’t touch either one of those.

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