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I just looked at a 3 digit 1894, 38-55. Don’t the early guns have a different screw location on the frame? The numbers don’t look quite right, how can I tell if it is a true first year gun?

 

I think I figured it out, 10 o’clock screw up to around #500.

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The first (509) Model 1894s were manufactured with the First variation receiver frame, and then they were intermixed with the Second variation receiver frames through serial number 7471.  The first variation receiver frame ratio was very heavy through serial number 3553, with the second variation becoming much more common between S/N 3554 – 7471.  I am still working on a survey of all the early serial numbers to come up with a reasonably accurate estimate of the First variation production total.  Accordingly, what is the S/N and configuration of the 3-digit Model 1894 you have found?  Currently, I have (129) of the (900) 3-digit serial numbers documented in the survey.

S/Ns 1 – 1674 are “First Year” Model 1894s.

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My friend bought it. I can’t remember the number, I will have to contact him.

 

The numbers seemed a bit larger than later numbers I looked at, and they were set lower, with the middle number in the top of the inverted V of the frame bottom.

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19FEFFD7-7BD0-4528-8091-BADDFC7C323C.jpegImage EnlargerHere’s a 3 digit 

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wolfbait said
My friend bought it. I can’t remember the number, I will have to contact him

The numbers seemed a bit larger than later numbers I looked at, and they were set lower, with the middle number in the top of the inverted V of the frame bottom.

  

The serial number digits were slightly larger on early production Model 1894s, and they were stamped slightly lower on the receiver frame.

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cj57 said
19FEFFD7-7BD0-4528-8091-BADDFC7C323C.jpegImage EnlargerHere’s a 3 digit 

  

I have S/N 571 listed as a very early 2nd variation.  Does it have an octagon or a round barrel?

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It is standard full oct. full mag, crescent butt

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Bert, do you have any 1st model take downs listed? 

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cj57 said
Bert, do you have any 1st model take downs listed? 

  

Yes, the first batch began with S/N 134.

Interestingly, there were at least (3) First variation Take Down rifles made in 30 WCF (all in the 5000 – 5100 S/N range).  All other First variation Model 1894s are 38-55s

134 1st Model Sptg Rifle Take Down 38-55
136 1st Model Sptg Rifle Take Down 38-55
137 1st Model Sptg Rifle Take Down 38-55
139 1st Model Sptg Rifle Take Down 38-55
140 1st Model Sptg Rifle Take Down 38-55
141 1st Model Sptg Rifle Take Down 38-55

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cj57 said
It is standard full oct. full mag, crescent butt

  

I have serial number 510 documented as the first Second variation Model 1894 rifle manufactured.  It is also a Take Down 38-55 rifle, 26″ octagon barrel.  Do you have a CFM letter for your rifle?  I am very curious if both S/N 510 and 571 were shipped to the same order number.

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