March 20, 2009
OfflineI was contacted by a guy who just inherited an 1894 vintage Model 1892 with some very unique looking wood on it. The production ledgers do not mention anything beyond a standard octagon barrel sporting rifle in 38 WCF and I find it hard to believe that this would have been missed and omitted. The butts tock fit is pretty much perfect around the tang. The fore end haas definitely been sanded and all the wood varnished. Obviously the tang screws have been removed/damaged which hints at wood removal. Does anyone think that this might be original to the gun? If not, the wood was switched long ago.
Michael








Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
March 20, 2010
OfflineSteven Gabrielli said
I don’t think so, that’s a classic tiger stripe put on with a torch. IMO.
Agreed. You can see the natural wood grain beneath the embellishment. Likely original to the gun wood that was stripped and mechanically embellished.
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March 20, 2009
OfflineSteven Gabrielli said
I don’t think so, that’s a classic tiger stripe put on with a torch. IMO.
1892takedown said
Steven Gabrielli said
I don’t think so, that’s a classic tiger stripe put on with a torch. IMO.
Agreed. You can see the natural wood grain beneath the embellishment. Likely original to the gun wood that was stripped and mechanically embellished.
Thanks guys. I will pass the information along to the owner.
Michael

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
August 27, 2014
Offlinetwobit said
Steven Gabrielli said
I don’t think so, that’s a classic tiger stripe put on with a torch. IMO.
1892takedown said
Steven Gabrielli said
I don’t think so, that’s a classic tiger stripe put on with a torch. IMO.
Agreed. You can see the natural wood grain beneath the embellishment. Likely original to the gun wood that was stripped and mechanically embellished.
Thanks guys. I will pass the information along to the owner.
Michael
The stock set is ‘flamed’, nicely I will add
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November 7, 2015
OfflineI work with Curly Maple now and then and the dark “stripes” go across the grain. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a “flame job” but I suspect pulling off the butt plate or taking the stock off would probably answer the question. I feel pretty sure a Maple stock would be mentioned in the ledger. Nice looking rifle.
Mike
August 14, 2021
OnlineTXGunNut said
I work with Curly Maple now and then and the dark “stripes” go across the grain. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a “flame job” but I suspect pulling off the butt plate or taking the stock off would probably answer the question. I feel pretty sure a Maple stock would be mentioned in the ledger. Nice looking rifle.
Mike
This could be too. It’s hard to tell from the pictures.
May 23, 2009
Offlinetwobit said
Does anyone think that this might be original to the gun? If not, the wood was switched long ago.
Michael
No way to tell for certain from the pictures and very odd that it would not be mentioned in a Cody letter. I would want to see the wood off the frame to see how the stocks are actually marked. The wood may have been switched. But unlike the others on the forum I’d be more inclined to believe the wood is factory wood. Granted it, as you say appears to have been sanded and re-varnished / refinished.
But I don’t believe its current appearance was put on with a “flame” by torch. Winchester made 2X grade wood that was cross cut in such a manner to give the appearance of “tiger stripes”. In your picture number 8 of the forearm about where your hand is placed you can see where the burl of the walnut matches up with the darker section of the wood, as it should. If it were faked and applied with a flame the burl grain would not match up, as there wouldn’t be any burl there. The grain would be random and not match the flow of the wood sort of speak.
For a factory example, the only 1of1000 with uncheckered 2X wood stocks is “tiger stripe” as with the stocks on the 92 shown above. ![]()


So unlike the others, I’d be more inclined to lean towards the stocks being factory wood. They may not be original to that said serial number. But it would warrant further investigation. Are the stocks marked as they should be? How do they look with all the metal removed?
Sincerely,
Maverick
P.S. I would take everything with a grain salt and be very careful if they’re asking for a lot of money for it.
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August 14, 2021
OnlineMaverick could be right. I am by no means an authority on faked stripes. My first impression with the other information given was they were faked.
Seems there are several method’s of doing so. Here is an example of artificial strips.
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/faux-tiger-stripes-in-maple.1727097/
December 9, 2002
OfflineI’ve been reading this thread post with interest, and remember how in the 6-‘s and 70’s it was pretty common to see some, faked tiger striped rifles, at the gun shows. The better ones, were masked with a sealer, so you couldn’t smell the burnt wood underneath. My father in law, a carpenter by trade, and a gunsmith, was pretty keen on spotting them and sniffing them out.
Here’s a real rifle with, “Curly Maple”, that is actually made from a Sugar Maple tree. If you look at the grain, you can see the actual irregularities in the wood, and not the uniformity in the one above, that is unnatural.
Tony
Just my opinion, but I don’t think it was done with a torch either. No doubt the wood has been refinished, but in several of the photos, you can clearly see the almost 3-D highlights, along each side of the dark stripes. Can’t get that with a torch. It’s in the natural grain of the wood. Many years ago, I bought a very nice case colored 1876 Rifle in .40-60 from Tommy Rholes. This gun had most of the original finish on the tiger striped stock and forend. No mention what-so-ever about the wood in the letter, but is was clearly numbered to the receiver and butt plate.
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