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July 16, 2013
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I am putting this out for a friend of mine that just picked up this Deluxe pistol grip 76. Has been a sleeper, and unknown till now.
This is the information so far.
24 rd barrel 45/60 proofed full mag second model
Has the receiver style checkering
Inside polish, Case hardened.
assembly numbers are matching and stamped on Stock, butt plate, lever, hammer, lifter, and side plates.
matching number 16, is stamped on the Bolt, firing pin, and the lever block.
The serial number is unreadable because of some pitting on the lower tang.
Will supply photo’s when I receive them
any help would be appreciated
May 2, 2009
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Tony,
The one of one thousand is all about the barrel with the engraving and marking saying “One of one thousand” with the inlayed bands on the muzzle and breach.
Bob
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May 23, 2009
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There are some techniques to recover the serial number. Knowing the serial number would be the most helpful.
Also even more helpful are some good photos. Without either of those its hard to say much of anything.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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July 16, 2013
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Maverick said
There are some techniques to recover the serial number. Knowing the serial number would be the most helpful.
Also even more helpful are some good photos. Without either of those its hard to say much of anything.
Sincerely,
Maverick
I will have photo’s coming soon, this was just a heads up to see what you guys think. its obvious the barrel was changed no bands etc on the barrel, but has a proof mark so it went back to the factory sometime after 1898, or maybe layed in stock the barrel pulled and replaced with the 24” im asumiming to handle the new smokless load, according to George’s book.
May 23, 2009
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Tony. R said
im asumiming to handle the new smokless load, according to George’s book.
The 45-60 W.C.F. was not a new smokeless load. No “smokeless” designed cartridges were sold in the Model 76.
The 45-60 W.C.F. was a more popular cartridge than the 45-75 W.C.F. when it was introduced in 1879.
Not all one of one thousand barrel had inlaid platinum/silver bands, but most did.
So what it boils down to is the serial number and when the gun was made.
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July 16, 2013
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Maverick said
Tony. R said
im asumiming to handle the new smokless load, according to George’s book.
The 45-60 W.C.F. was not a new smokeless load. No “smokeless” designed cartridges were sold in the Model 76.
The 45-60 W.C.F. was a more popular cartridge than the 45-75 W.C.F. when it was introduced in 1879.
Not all one of one thousand barrel had inlaid platinum/silver bands, but most did.
So what it boils down to is the serial number and when the gun was made.
Ok but why the assemble numbers on those mentioned parts the inside finish, and number 16 on the bolt fireing pin and lever block, never seen that before
July 14, 2016
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I have a 16” short rifle that has assembly numbers on some parts including inside on the side plates. I have another 1873 with assembly numbers on the lower tang, top of the stock that is under the upper tang and on the lifter. I have not taken the butt plate off but there is probably one on there too.
And as Maverick said, there are ways to bring up the serial number even if it has been ground off. I have watched it happen in the lab. It is not a high tech technique and can be done easily.
I think I know of the gun that you are talking about Tony.
Chris
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April 15, 2005
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Tony. R said
Maverick said
There are some techniques to recover the serial number. Knowing the serial number would be the most helpful.
Also even more helpful are some good photos. Without either of those its hard to say much of anything.
Sincerely,
Maverick
I will have photo’s coming soon, this was just a heads up to see what you guys think. its obvious the barrel was changed no bands etc on the barrel, but has a proof mark so it went back to the factory sometime after 1898, or maybe layed in stock the barrel pulled and replaced with the 24” im asumiming to handle the new smokless load, according to George’s book.
Tony,
It is my understanding that Winchester did not begin stamping proof marks on replacement barrels before the year 1908.
Bert
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