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I have a couple questions reguarding a 92. I havent found any surveys or info on how many cased 92’s were made. I know it was not many and did they have the same problems as the 94’s? was it the size of frame and thickness that was the problem? I tought i read somewhere that is why the discontinued the 94 after they made 157 of them. 

serial# 45317

caliber: 44

Barrel: 1/2 octagon

Smoothbore

Checkered stock 

Pull- 13 1/2 in, Drop 2 1/4in

Rear seat 3 1/2 in from breech

sights- shotgun front

3/4 magazine 10 cartridges

Shotgun butt

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I have a couple questions reguarding a 92. I havent found any surveys or info on how many cased 92’s were made. I know it was not many and did they have the same problems as the 94’s? was it the size of frame and thickness that was the problem? I tought i read somewhere that is why the discontinued the 94 after they made 157 of them. 

serial# 45317

caliber: 44

Barrel: 1/2 octagon

Smoothbore

Checkered stock 

Pull- 13 1/2 in, Drop 2 1/4in

Rear seat 3 1/2 in from breech

sights- shotgun front

3/4 magazine 10 cartridges

Shotgun butt

Casehardened

  

I’d sure enjoy seeing photos of this rifle!

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I’m not a big ’92 guy, but I’d say You have one helluva scarce gun there,

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I will try to get some photos of it on. There is (was) one other out there as it said one other gun shipped with same as listed above. 

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I will try to get some photos of it on. There is (was) one other out there as it said one other gun shipped with same as listed above. 

  

That is fascinating.

Michael – do you have these two rifles in your survey?

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Is there any knowledge of the history of these rifles – such as who ordered them and for what purpose?  Sounds like they were ordered for exhibition shooting but that’s just speculation.

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Im going to have Jessica do some extra. Had to be something in the show world for sure. I got more investigating to do. I cant find my darn cord to download from phone onto computer.

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Im going to have Jessica do some extra. Had to be something in the show world for sure. I got more investigating to do. I cant find my darn cord to download from phone onto computer.

  

Maybe send the photos from your phone to your email. Then open and save them to your desktop.  That’s what I do.

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Would be great to know the story this rifle could tell. It does appear to be built for an exhibition shooter but there were quite a few a bit after this gun was built. I think the list was a bit shorter during this time period but this may be another time I’m profoundly mistaken.

 

 

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steve004 said

T. Peden said

I will try to get some photos of it on. There is (was) one other out there as it said one other gun shipped with same as listed above. 

That is fascinating.

Michael – do you have these two rifles in your survey

  

Steve,

I do not have either of the rifles in my survey.  I look forward to getting the photos.

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Im going to have Jessica do some extra. Had to be something in the show world for sure. I got more investigating to do. I cant find my darn cord to download from phone onto computer.

Tom,

You can send them to me at [email protected]

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I have a couple questions reguarding a 92. I havent found any surveys or info on how many cased 92’s were made. 

  

Within the first 290,000 Model 1892 rifles manufactured there was a total pf 371 case hardened receivers produced.  Of those 234 were used on SRC’s and the balance of 137 were sporting rifles.  There were non produced after approximately SN 164000 in 1901.

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I am shocked to here that there were so many SRC’s made prior to 1901 with CH receivers.  Bet that made a beautiful carbine.

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I sent a few pictures to you Michael

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Here they are:

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Thanks for the info Michael, it is odd that so many CH guns were carbines compared to rifles. We pry will never know who or what was behind these guns, and if the other one is out there still. It’ll only pass my mind everytime i look at this gun!

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About eight or nine years ago I was at one of the last OGCA shows they had at the IX center in Cleveland. I walked past a table and a fellow had a model 1892 SRC with a case hardened receiver as well as the letter.  The colors were muted some but were still really nice.  He had a price of $15k on the carbine.  I kept walking. I could not believe something like that even existed.

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That is one beautiful old Winchester!

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About eight or nine years ago I was at one of the last OGCA shows they had at the IX center in Cleveland. I walked past a table and a fellow had a model 1892 SRC with a case hardened receiver as well as the letter.  The colors were muted some but were still really nice.  He had a price of $15k on the carbine.  I kept walking. I could not believe something like that even existed.

  Well you’re on the short list to seeing one in person. 92 carbines with a pistol grip are rare enough and with a worn silver reciever bring 6k. Someone has that gun and is pry happy with whatever the big price was because to them its worth it and pry is………I would of asked if he’d take 8500 tho before walking haha

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