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Beautiful 1894 first model take-down on GB
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Really nice.

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January 27, 2019 - 2:52 pm
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Wow! I sure wish my old first model 1894 (3149) looked this good! 

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January 27, 2019 - 4:07 pm
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 Do you notice the name on the letter, Randy always has nice stuff. Names on a letter can mean something. T/R

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I’m not knocking the rifle, but the asking price seems a bit steep for what it is.

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mrcvs said
I’m not knocking the rifle, but the asking price seems a bit steep for what it is.  

Old restoration?

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Knowing Randy, he wouldn’t ruin his reputation by selling something that isn’t right.  Price is a little steep for me.

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Seems really nice condition, however I agree a bit high for what it is. 

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Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886

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The asking price is too high, and in my opinion, the stocks have added finish on them. Winchester did not use a high gloss (Piano varnish) on standard rifles, and it should have been noted in the ledger records if it was special ordered. Winchester did use a higher grade of walnut for the stocks on the early Take Down rifles, but it was finished the same as the standard grade rifles.

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January 27, 2019 - 6:41 pm
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Bert,

What would you value this one at?

IMHO, the asking price isn’t even close.

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Bert H. said
The asking price is too high, and in my opinion, the stocks have added finish on them. Winchester did not use a high gloss (Piano varnish) on standard rifles, and it should have been noted in the ledger records if it was special ordered. Winchester did use a higher grade of walnut for the stocks on the early Take Down rifles, but it was finished the same as the standard grade rifles.
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I notice that the letter states “fancy stock”. Might that include the Piano varnish, or not?

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Everything is alright with this rifle. Wood finish and all. Fancy, takedown, first model, condition… this is a scarce gun. It is a $17-20K gun.

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Kirk Durston said

I notice that the letter states “fancy stock”. Might that include the Piano varnish, or not?  

The notation “Fancy stock” usually indicates that it has 2X or better grade wood.  Non-standard finish on the stock would ordinarily be noted in the Remarks column of the warehouse ledgers… e.g. “Oil Finish” or “Varnish”.

Without the benefit of a hands on inspection, I am not inclined to believe that the stocks have the correct factory finish on them.  That stated, poor lighting and/or camera can make it difficult to determine originality.

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Very nice! Pretty wood, nice sight package, takedown, condition, first model…no idea on the price but you don’t see a gun like this offered often. Wouldn’t bet against it selling for that. Would be nice if the sights lettered.

 

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I can not comment as to the originality of the finish. My extremely amateur observation to the current market Im saying its 10k to high. However I would still love to own it.

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For the sake of my education:

From what I thought I knew, photograph #22 pictures a refinished receiver.  Light reflecting oddly from the flat surface, and screw holes that are dished.

If I were shopping for this type of rifle, I would shy away from this one.  So, please set me straight?

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Patrick said
I can not comment as to the originality of the finish. My extremely amateur observation to the current market Im saying its 10k to high. However I would still love to own it.  

That’s sort of my thoughts.  Wasn’t there a Model 1894 posted on here recently with several special order features and condition that didn’t even crack 6k at auction?  The market has definitely softened…

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For the sake of my education:

From what I thought I knew, photograph #22 pictures a refinished receiver.  Light reflecting oddly from the flat surface, and screw holes that are dished.

If I were shopping for this type of rifle, I would shy away from this one.  So, please set me straight?  

 

There is always “dishing” in a harsh reflection around screw holes even on original examples. The rifle mentioned here is 100% original finish.

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mrcvs said

That’s sort of my thoughts.  Wasn’t there a Model 1894 posted on here recently with several special order features and condition that didn’t even crack 6k at auction?  The market has definitely softened…  

 

A high condition 1st model is worth a premium. Add a takedown frame and fancy stocks, you have a really scarce gun. Like I said before, I think it is a $17-20K gun.

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  There are a lot of collectors that recognize rarity and will pay for it. Remember the 36″ 1894 that Tiny bought a year ago, someone told him it was only worth 5K, I tried to buy it for 10k and was not successful. The man who bought it for a undisclosed amount is happy. T/R 

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