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Hi guys,

Does anyone have any idea if this rifle was sold out of one of the big auction houses?  I am trying to determine how much the current seller has in the gun.  http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/winchester-1894-30-30-w6062/://www.collectorsfirearms.com/winchester-1894-30-30-w6062/

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Hi Michael,

I’ve admired this rifle at Collectors Firearms for a good year or two but don’t know where it came from before then.  A beautiful rifle indeed.

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Michael,

Like Don, I too have admired that rifle over the last year, or so. Don’t know where they got it, darn nice looking gun though. They have a few nice model 1894’s in that condition, and price range.

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Why not just make the man what you believe to be a fair offer.  What if you did contact him and he told you that he only had 8 grand in it and had owned it for ten years.  What would be a fair offer then as you see it?

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deerhunter said
Hi Michael,

I’ve admired this rifle at Collectors Firearms for a good year or two but don’t know where it came from before then.  A beautiful rifle indeed.

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Michael,

Like Don, I too have admired that rifle over the last year, or so. Don’t know where they got it, darn nice looking gun though. They have a few nice model 1894’s in that condition, and price range.

Al  

Thanks guys.   I have not been over to Collectors in quite a while and need to drop in on them.  I definitely will have to take a closer look at this rifle.

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Why not just make the man what you believe to be a fair offer.  What if you did contact him and he told you that he only had 8 grand in it and had owned it for ten years.  What would be a fair offer then as you see it?

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James,

I inquired about the rifle for a friend of mine who lives in Europe and had asked me what information I could find out about it for him.  Thus the reason for my question.

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James,

I inquired about the rifle for a friend of mine who lives in Europe and had asked me what information I could find out about it for him.  Thus the reason for my question.

Michael  

I think if you are able to visit the shop, and it sounds as if you could do that, then you might be able to get the man’s sale price on the gun for your friend. 

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That is a good looking 1894. 

Collectors Firearms generally have some really nice 1886s as well. 

Has anyone purchased Winchesters from them? If so, was it a good experience? 

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Michael,

If you do get a chance to look at it person, can you let us know if it’s as nice in person as it looks in the pictures? I wish I lived closer to Houston, but it’s a long haul from Western, PA.

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Is this the same Collectors Firearms from the other thread with the $50k 1873 with nickel trim that doesnt letter? 

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Is this the same Collectors Firearms from the other thread with the $50k 1873 with nickel trim that doesnt letter?   

Actually it is, now that you mention it.  

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Here’s a $32,500 model 1894 deluxe with a replaced barrel–notice the incorrect barrel marking:

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/factory-engraved-gold-inlaid-winchester-1894-takedown-deluxe-w7687/

However, I have purchased two real nice Winchesters from them in the past for very good prices.  Even negotiated the prices down a bit too.  One is an 1886 takedown in 80%+ condition and the other is a model 94/95 hybrid carbine in 90%+ condition.  Had a good experience with both, but as with any purchase one must do their homework and know what they are buying.

http://archives.collectorsfirearms.com/?category=943&subcategory=1129&category=&product=W6215

http://archives.collectorsfirearms.com/?category=943&subcategory=977&page=2&category=&product=W5941

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Don,

Very nice.

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Michael. I’ve been to their store several times and they will deal on almost anything. (If you get the chance to go it’s worth it, very friendly staff and owners) I know they were offering discounts off everything not too long ago. I’d suggest call and talk to their Winchester guy or Danny, tell him what you think of the gun and make him a fair offer and see what happens.

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They are OK to deal with.

I have warned them many times that this 1886 has been refinished – they still claim it is original.

 

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/winchester-1886-deluxe-38-56-w7141/

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How much difference does a barrel swap make? Ad copy says 30-30, letter says 38-55.

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How much difference does a barrel swap make? Ad copy says 30-30, letter says 38-55.  

That’s a good question.  Fortunately this rifle has the most detailed R&R entry I’ve ever seen in a Cody letter–including the caliber change.  I’m sure this rifle would be valued higher if it were still a 38-55, but how much??

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The factory barrel swap has no negative affect on the “collector” aspect. The 38-55 caliber is worth approximately 33% more than the 30 WCF.

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That’s a good question.  Fortunately this rifle has the most detailed R&R entry I’ve ever seen in a Cody letter–including the caliber change.  I’m sure this rifle would be valued higher if it were still a 38-55, but how much??  

I have two rifles with R&R entries, one or both involving barrel (and chambering) changes but with no details other than a work order number. I agree the amount of detail is unusual based on the very few I’ve seen. I’m also a bit puzzled about the 1895 build date in the ad copy, letter doesn’t support that date.

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Bert H. said
The factory barrel swap has no negative affect on the “collector” aspect. The 38-55 caliber is worth approximately 33% more than the 30 WCF.
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Good to know, I devalued a very interesting rifle in my collection when I learned it originally left the factory as a 38-55. Like the OP rifle it now has a 30 WCF barrel. No details in the R&R entry but it appears to be a factory swap.

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