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Winchester Cardboard Boxes
January 29, 2013
11:51 am
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I know that the Cardboard Box era is a little newer then many collectors here are interested in but I have a few questions.

1. Has anyone ever done a web site etc. that shows the progession?

2. Did the Red White and Blue box (blue strip on top with the horse and rider, red on the edges) Show up about 1976 with all the Bi Centennial hoppla (I graduated high school in 76 they even made us wear Red White and Blue tassels)

Reason for the 2nd question is on another forum a guy is presenting a model 94 carbine as an unfired 1960 model in the box but the box is RWB, While I remember (from dads collection) That boxes in the early 60’s were the Red Plaid style.

Trying to get the serial number off the model 94 being offered to verify.

Thanks for the time guys.

Mark W.

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January 29, 2013
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For Model 70’s (and I assume others as well) the red plaid boxes began very late in production–1963. There was a transition during which the earlier boxes and the plaid boxes were both used for serial numbers very close together.

I believe that if your M94 is truly a 1960 rifle it should not have the plaid box. Check the box carefully for evidence that a serial number was erased and a new one inscribed. It is seldom possible to do this without leaving some clues.

It is common these days to create NIB rifles as witnessed by the high prices for empty boxes that come up for sale. Also, be aware that there are fake boxes and fake box end labels. Usually the fakers do not get all the details exactly right and knowledgeable collectors can tell.

January 29, 2013
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vicvanb said
For Model 70’s (and I assume others as well) the red plaid boxes began very late in production–1963. There was a transition during which the earlier boxes and the plaid boxes were both used for serial numbers very close together.

I believe that if your M94 is truly a 1960 rifle it should not have the plaid box. Check the box carefully for evidence that a serial number was erased and a new one inscribed. It is seldom possible to do this without leaving some clues.

It is common these days to create NIB rifles as witnessed by the high prices for empty boxes that come up for sale. Also, be aware that there are fake boxes and fake box end labels. Usually the fakers do not get all the details exactly right and knowledgeable collectors can tell.

The rifle is being presented as a 1960 but is in a Red White and Blue Box. Which I feel is more of a mid to late 1970’s box. No feedback on any serial number inquire from the seller as yet.

January 31, 2013
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In my opinion, it is definately not correct.

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