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There is a local auction this weekend, real close, the flyer says there is a winchester model 61 and 62 and a model 1880 all in 22 cal. is there such a thing as a model 1880? Terry
Terry,
The Model 1880 is most likely a fat thumb typed 1890!
Could you please get the SN of the Model 61 and what size of .22 the rifle is chambered for? Is it round or Octagon barrel? Need info for a survey I am working on.
Thanks
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
twobit said
Terry,The Model 1880 is most likely a fat thumb typed 1890!
Could you please get the SN of the Model 61 and what size of .22 the rifle is chambered for? Is it round or Octagon barrel? Need info for a survey I am working on.Thanks
Michael
Auction is this Sunday, i will give you the info. when i go. Of the three is any one worth more than the others?
Hello
Of the three is any one worth more than the others?
That question is impossible to answer without knowing the configuration and condition of each. Do you have a link to the auction that might have more information and/or photos of each rifle?
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
twobit said
HelloOf the three is any one worth more than the others?
That question is impossible to answer without knowing the configuration and condition of each. Do you have a link to the auction that might have more information and/or photos of each rifle?
Michael
There is no info on the flyer, it is not a big auction, I was wondering if condition was about the same, which would be worth more.
If they are all the same grade and same condition then they would rank M.61, M.1890 followed some way behind by the M.62
But if say the M.62 was a gallery model (Winchester marked on the receiver .22 short only) then that would change things
In reality it depends on the prices and which rifle talks to you
Hello Ray,
Just to give you an idea of the mix that is possible for some of these rifles. There are 3 different model variations of the 1890 and depending on which time frame a possible 4 different chamber choices. Each of these is valued differently. For the Model 61 there are octagon and round barrel variations, 5 different chamber possibilities and the possibility of the receiver being grooved or not. Like the 1890’s each of these different rifles will be valued differently. And these are just the major collecting divisions. I will stick with my "it is impossible to answer your question" because there is not likely to be a similar set of combinations among the rifles being auctioned.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
I wrote the above and was out in the yard doing chores and the thought went through my mind that you would rate any M.61 (plane Jane, broken stock, gummed up works) over any of the others
Within reason of course
Yes, lots of variations and you do need to know which variations are worth more but I think my point that it is the one that talks to you is the way to go
twobit said
Terry,The Model 1880 is most likely a fat thumb typed 1890!
Could you please get the SN of the Model 61 and what size of .22 the rifle is chambered for? Is it round or Octagon barrel? Need info for a survey I am working on.Thanks
Michael
Mike just what all do you want me to check on that model 61 at that auction today? Terry
Ray said
If they are all the same grade and same condition then they would rank M.61, M.1890 followed some way behind by the M.62
But if say the M.62 was a gallery model (Winchester marked on the receiver .22 short only) then that would change thingsIn reality it depends on the prices and which rifle talks to you
Does a 22 short marked receiver mean it is a gallery gun?
Does a 22 short marked receiver mean it is a gallery gun?
Not with out some of the other signs but a single calibre type especially .22 short is worth more than a standard rifle
Does a 22 short marked receiver mean it is a gallery gun?
Not with out some of the other signs but a single calibre type especially .22 short is worth more than a standard rifle
Mike just what all do you want me to check on that model 61 at that auction today? Terry
From above:
Terry,
Could you please get the SN of the Model 61 and what size of .22 the rifle is chambered for? Is it round or Octagon barrel? Need info for a survey I am working on.
Thanks
Michael
If I am not too late I need the serial number, caliber stamp, grooved receiver or not, checkered steel butt plate or black composition and is the upper tang D&T.
Thanks
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Went to that auction today, to start the model 61 #138061,barrel says S,L,LR, no grooved receiver, nothing in upper or lower tang, and it did have a checked steel butt plate. It sold for 700.00 dollars, which I think is high, but I am new to these old winchester. The 62 # 424120 was also a S,L,LR barrel with a winchester composition butt plate, it was 650.00. Then the 1890 #640960 was a 22 short only, nothing else related to a carnavel rifle, brought 600.00, but looked to me to have been reblued, had no wear marks at all. what does everybody think of these prices? Also did not bring any home with me. Terry Also only the 1890 had a oct. barrel
Terry,
If the 61 was in original condition and in 70% or better then the price is in line. An 1890 in that serial number range all had octagon barrels.
You did well to go, learn, and see, and not get caught up and buy a bad rifle. There are lots of these around and good buys will happen every weekend if you put in the time to find them.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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