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What was the standard barrel length for a model 65 in 25/20 cal.

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My 65 in 32 WCF is 22"

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John,

There were no optional barrel lengths for the Model 65. The 25-20 WCF and 32 WCF rifles all had a 22-inch barrel, and the 218 Bee rifles all have a 24-inch barrel. In my survey, I have not found any that were not as listed.

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I have a 65 in .32-20 that looks unfired.

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I have a 65 in .32-20 that looks unfired.  

Serial number ?

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I’ll get it for you soon. 

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Bert,

if you recall, I have a model 65 with a 24″ 32-20 WIN marked barrel.  If I recall, you thought this was a model 43 barrel that was placed on a model 65.  The serial number is 1,007,050.  The barrel has a filled dovetail on the bottom, that could have been for the forearm attachment on a model 43.  

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Bert,

if you recall, I have a model 65 with a 24″ 32-20 WIN marked barrel.  If I recall, you thought this was a model 43 barrel that was placed on a model 65.  The serial number is 1,007,050.  The barrel has a filled dovetail on the bottom, that could have been for the forearm attachment on a model 43.    

Odd… I do not recall a conversation about Model 65 serial number 1007050 ?  Further, I have it listed in my research survey as a 25-20 WCF caliber rifle.  Can you remind me when we discussed it ?

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My apologies, the correct serial number is 1,007,501.  I should verify rather than use memory.  Photos e-mailed March 9, 2017. 

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My apologies, the correct serial number is 1,007,501.  I should verify rather than use memory.  Photos e-mailed March 9, 2017.   

OK, that now rings a bell.  Did you verify what the barrel date is?

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Barrel date is 50. 

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Barrel date is 50.   

That confirms that it has a Model 43 barrel on it.

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Thank you, Bert.  What is the highest model 65 serial number you have recorded?  I assume the 1,007,501 is a parts “cleanup” rifle assembled in 1950 or later, but would appreciate any thoughts on this.

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The last Model 65 was serial number 1007608 per the Polishing Room records, and it was serialized on 10/23/1945.  When regular production was halted to support WW II production efforts, serial numbers had reached 1007438. 

It is my belief that all serial numbers > 1007438 were produced to clean up remaining parts on hand, and they were assembled from late September 1945 through December 1950.  I believe that your rifle was one of them.

The highest serial number I have surveyed this far is 1007590, and I have a total of (5) rifles in the survey with serial numbers later than your rifle. 

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Hey Bert. My model 65 in .32-20 that looks like it could be unfired is 1006177. 

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Hey Bert. My model 65 in .32-20 that looks like it could be unfired is 1006177.   

Is it a standard (plain) rifle ?

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Yes. Not a deluxe. (I wish)

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Thank you, Bert.  I appreciate the information.  

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