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I don’t pick up anything obvious on this rifle except the jeweled bolt…
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=359604959
Don’t remember an example of factory jeweling a bolt but I’m far from an expert on what they did or did not offer?
Bluing looks correct to me on the receiver and buttplate.
Lettering: In the one decent photo it looks okay, but… the remainder of the photos critical for inspection are so amateurish that they are unusable.
Email to the seller for details, reserve, history, resulted in a smart-a__, unhelpful response so I suspect the rifle won’t reach whatever the reserve is; likely too high in any event.
Long time since I priced these but what are your opinions on originality and value range?
March 20, 2009
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ohlode wrote:
the remainder of the photos critical for inspection are so amateurish that they are unusable.
They are not even that good. Do these idiots really think people will buy based on that sort of junk??
If there were good photos it could be a fine looking rifle.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
May 24, 2012
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Good photos, or at least a courtesy inspection period. Either one would bring more money to the seller as I see it.
December 14, 2008
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The gun looks right to me. I have a Deluxe 03′ that I just pulled out to compare. Mine has a peep sight as well. The checkering looks right. The only difference I can see is the "jeweled" bolt and the sling swivels. I do know that a jeweled bolt was an option on many of the Winchester 22 rimfires.
April 15, 2005
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Winchester did not offer jeweled bolts on any of the semi-autos, and definitely not that early (1910). The butt stock has been sanded and refinished in my opinion.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
That’s a very nice 1903 Renegade!
I’ve personally never heard of a factory jeweled bolt nor seen one on a Winchester .22 semi-auto until this one.
Appreciate the input from all.
You may have a point on the stock Bert. Almost too flawless.
I have trouble figuring out how a rifle could be maintained in that condition since 1910 without some story or explanation, i.e., "it was locked in a bank vault", or some sort of explanation.
I bought a "new" 1936 Daisy Red Ryder, that even had a mint box. The explanation was that the Kansas family had lost the boy in a farming accident shortly before they could give it to him for Christmas… sad for sure but totally believable.
This 03 is certainly a beautiful rifle. I’ve got an outdated blue book but IMHO, I guess-ti-mate around $3K to $3.5K tops since it’s a deluxe and the book adds a 100% premium? Any other value estimates?
(of course, less if the discrepancies are there)
December 14, 2008
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=359604959
went for $3825.00!
The buyer got a beautiful rifle… Excellent price attained. Little over what I would have thought but what’s a few hundred when you’re up that high; especially at auction? May have brought $4K or better with "Julia quality" photography and a bit of history. Would love to know where it’s been for over 100 years…
I have one that is in remarkable shape. I can’t find anything about what the value might be. Called to get a letter on it and the Cody museum told me there were no surviving records that far back. It was made in 1918 and has a high grade stock and scrolling around the receiver.
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