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December 31, 2012
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Figure a lot of 38-40 and 44-40’s were bought by the movie studios as they worked well with the 5 in one blanks. Many were plated and handguards removed to make fake Henrys. These guns were plentiful back before they started using these rifle in every cowboy movie ever made. Even Lucas Mc Caines M92 was too early for the time frame, and was a 38-40 to boot. They probably used M1892’s at the Alamo too.
So, with todays shortage of real nice 44’s, you have to pay premiums to own one, especially the SR carbines. I have 4 nice ones and I would not sell any of them, even for a premium. Big Larry
July 7, 2011
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I am not sure but, I think an 1892 was used in the tv series "wanted dead or alive" and what I get a kick out of is the ammo belt he is wearing is full of very long rifle cartridges. You never see him reload from this belt. It was all for show but, most people would not pick up on that.
Paul
March 20, 2009
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Big Larry,
Define "premium"
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
November 17, 2012
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This is by no means a complete list of all the screen appearance’s that
the Model 92 or a clone of such has appeared but it is a list of several that
I found interesting
Film
Title
Actor
Character
Note
Date
G Men Barton MacLane Collins 1935
San Quentin Prison Guards 1937
Each Dawn I Die Prison Guards 1939
The Outlaw Thomas Mitchell Sheriff Pat Garrett 1943
The Outlaw Walter Huston Doc Holliday 1943
Fort Apache Native Americans 1948
Red River John Wayne Thomas Dunson Saddle Ring Carbine 1948
Red River Montgomery Clift Matt Garth Saddle Ring Carbine 1948
Red River Walter Brennan Nadine Groot Saddle Ring Carbine 1948
Red River Joanne Dru Tess Millay Saddle Ring Carbine 1948
Red River Various 1948
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre Humphrey Bogart Dobbs 1949
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre Bruce Bennett Cody 1949
Rio Grande Ben Johnson Trooper Travis Tyree 1950
Rio Grande Harry Carey Jr. Trooper Daniel "Sandy" Boone 1950
Rio Grande Claude Jarman Jr. Trooper Jefferson Yorke 1950
Rio Grande Apaches some reused footage from Fort Apache 1950
The Redhead From Wyoming Alex Nicol Sheriff Stan Blaine 1953
The Redhead From Wyoming Alexander Scourby Reece Duncan 1953
The Redhead From Wyoming William Bishop Jim Averell 1953
The Redhead From Wyoming Maureen O’Hara Kate Maxwell 1953
The Redhead From Wyoming Dennis Weaver Matt Jessup 1953
The Redhead From Wyoming Gregg Palmer Hal Jessup 1953
The Redhead From Wyoming David Sharpe Duncan’s Man 1953
The Redhead From Wyoming Various characters 1953
The FBI Story FBI Agent 1959
To Kill a Mockingbird Vigilantes 1962
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance Woody Strode Pompey 1962
Lonely Are the Brave Kirk Douglas Jack Burns 1962
Lemonade Joe Josef Hlinomaz Grimpo 1964
Lemonade Joe Gunslingers 1964
Viva Maria! Mexican rebel 1965
The Chief of Chukotka (Nachalnik Chukotki) Mikhail Kononov Alexei 1966
The Professionals Woody Strode Jake Sharp 1966
The Professionals Robert Ryan Hans Ehrengard 1966
The Professionals Burt Lancaster Bill Dolworth 1966
Django Different characters 1966
A Bullet for the General Lou Castel Bill Tate Saddle Ring Carbine 1966
A Bullet for the General Martine Beswick Adelita Saddle Ring Carbine 1966
A Bullet for the General El Chuncho men Rifle and Saddle Ring Carbine 1966
El Dorado John Wayne Cole Thornton 1967
El Dorado Robert Mitchum Sheriff J.P. Harran 1967
El Dorado Michele Carey Joey MacDonald 1967
Hombre Bandits 1967
Bonnie and Clyde Police officer and a Vigilante 1967
Once Upon a Time in the West Jack Elam Snakey 1968
Bandolero! James Stewart Mace Bishop 1968
Bandolero! Andrew Prine Roscoe Bookbinder 1968
Bandolero! Clint Ritchie Babe Jenkins 1968
Bandolero! Posse members 1968
True Grit John Wayne U.S. Marshal Rooster Cogburn With large lever tear drop loop 1969
The Wild Bunch Ernest Borgnine Dutch Engstrom Saddle Ring Carbine 1969
The Wild Bunch Robert Ryan Deke Thornton Saddle Ring Carbine 1969
Mackenna´s Gold Omar Sharif Colorado Saddle Ring Carbine 1969
Mackenna´s Gold Telly Savalas Sgt. Tibbs Saddle Ring Carbine 1969
Mackenna´s Gold Julie Newmar Hesh-Ke 1969
Mackenna´s Gold Ted Cassidy Hachita Saddle Ring Carbine 1969
Mackenna´s Gold Rudy Diaz Besh Saddle Ring Carbine 1969
Mackenna´s Gold Madeleine Taylor Holmes Apache old woman 1969
Mackenna´s Gold Various 1948
Weisse Wölfe Gojko Mitic Farsighted Falcon Saddle Ring Carbine 1969
Weisse Wölfe Karl Zugowski Andy Sleek Saddle Ring Carbine 1969
Weisse Wölfe Barbara Brylska Catherine Emerson Saddle Ring Carbine 1969
Guns of the Magnificent Seven Monte Markham Keno 1967
Chisum Glenn Corbett Pat Garrett 1970
Chisum Geoffrey Deuel Billy the Kid 1970
Rio Lobo Jack Elam Old Man Phillips 1970
Rio Lobo Various characters 1970
Bloody Mama Bruce Dern Kevin Dirkman 1970
Bloody Mama FBI Agents and police officers 1970
Figures in a Landscape Robert Shaw MacConnachie 1971
Figures in a Landscape Malcolm McDowell Ansell 1971
The Legend of Frenchie King (Les Pétroleuses) Brigitte Bardot Louise Saddle Ring Carbine 1971
The Legend of Frenchie King (Les Pétroleuses) Henri Czarniak Doctor Miller Saddle Ring Carbine 1971
Hannie Caulder Mr. Caulder 1971
Big Jake John Wayne Jake McCandles 1971
Big Jake Richard Boone John Fain 1971
Joe Kidd John Saxon Luis Chama 1972
The Cowboys Robert Carradine Slim 1972
The Cowboys Several of the young boys 1972
High Plains Drifter Several townspeople 1973
Oklahoma Crude John Mills Cleon Doyle 1973
Oklahoma Crude Faye Dunaway Lena Doyle 1973
Oklahoma Crude George C. Scott Noble "Mase" Mason 1973
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia Bodyguards and bandits 1974
Melvin Purvis G-MAN law enforcement officers saddle-ring carbine 1974
Big Bad Mama Police officer 1974
Bite The Bullet Gene Hackman Sam Clayton 1975
Bite The Bullet James Coburn Luke Matthews 1975
Rooster Cogburn John Wayne Rooster Cogburn 1975
The Last Hard Men Charlton Heston Sam Burgade 1976
The Last Hard Men James Coburn Zach Provo 1976
The Last Hard Men Jorge Rivero Cesar Menendez 1976
The Last Hard Men Christopher Mitchum Hal Brickman 1976
The Last Hard Men Michael Parks Sheriff Noel Nye 1976
Damnation Alley Brigands 1977
The People That Time Forgot Patrick Wayne Ben McBride 1977
The People That Time Forgot Shane Rimmer Hogan 1977
Zulu Dawn Ronald Lacey Norris Newman 1979
Tom Horn Different characters 1980
Heaven’s Gate Kris Kristofferson James Averill 1980
Heaven’s Gate Christopher Walken Nathan D. Champion 1980
Heaven’s Gate Brad Dourif Mr. Eggleston 1980
Heaven’s Gate Sam Waterston Frank Canton 1980
Heaven’s Gate Ronnie Hawkins Mjr. Wolcott 1980
Heaven’s Gate Different characters 1980
Blastfighter Michael Sopkiw Jake "Tiger" Sharp 1984
Blastfighter Wally’s men 1984
Extreme Prejudice Nick Nolte Jack Benteen 1987
Of Mice and Men Casey Siemaszko Curley 1992
From Dusk Till Dawn 3: The Hangman’s Daughter Temuera Morrison The Hangman . 2000
Holes Scott Plank Trout Walker 2003
Casa de mi Padre Will Ferrell Armando Alvarez stainless, engraved 2012
Television
Title
Actor
Character
Note
Date
Lawman John Russell Marshal Dan Troop 1958-1962
Lawman Peter Brown Deputy Johnny McKay 1958-1962
The Rifleman Chuck Connors Lucas McCain With large lever D loop 1958-1963
The A-Team 1983-1988
Rough Riders 1997
King Solomon’s Mines Patrick Swayze Allen Quartermain 2004
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November 17, 2012
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Wanted: Dead or Alive Steve McQueen Josh Randall (.44-40 caliber, first with rounded barrel and D lever loop and later with octagonal barrel and tear drop lever loop) 1958-1961
The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr. Sheena Easton Crystal Hawks 1993
The Magnificent Seven Eric Close Vin Tanner large lever loop 1998-1999
Firefly Gina Torres Zoe 2002
These got left of as they were of the Maresleg version
March 20, 2010
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There is also "Once upon a time in the West" with Charles Bronson, and Henry Fonda.
1892takedown @sbcglobal.net ......NRA Endowment Life Member.....WACA Member
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November 17, 2011
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I have one of the Paramount Movie Studio’s Winchester Model 92 44-40 20" Octagon barrel Saddle Ring Carbines as documented by Leroy Mertz. These were specially made up by Winchester with unique characteristics used in some films then sold off. Mine is a family heirloom, purchased by my dad at Hudson’s Sporting Goods in NYC in about 1938.
July 7, 2011
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quantrez
Why do you double post on a lot of your posts?
November 17, 2012
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I have been at this a long time 94 shorties but for the most part I had
to rely on books and real life examples of the actual guns because their
was no internet to run to check with the experts… I guess what I am saying
is I spent to much of my life with the real thing and I am very lacking in the
computer skills. I promise you that it is not for anyones benefit or to
ruffle any feathers.
July 7, 2011
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quantrez
You just proved that you have the computer skills because you went into your previous post and corrected it. As far as real world goes, I started collecting Winchesters over 45 years ago when the only reference was "The Winchester Book" by Madis. I am 70 years old and type with 2 fingers but, if I post something and it comes up wrong, I go back and fix it.
November 17, 2012
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I kindly thank whom ever went back and corrected my post and
removed the double post.
April 15, 2005
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94shorties said
quantrez
You just proved that you have the computer skills because you went into your previous post and corrected it. As far as real world goes, I started collecting Winchesters over 45 years ago when the only reference was "The Winchester Book" by Madis. I am 70 years old and type with 2 fingers but, if I post something and it comes up wrong, I go back and fix it.
Paul,
I fixed that post (to shorten it)
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
December 31, 2012
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twobit, I have seen many M1892’s well into the $4,000 range for a so so rifle or carbine. That’s 44-40 only. I have seen minty rifles in the $10,000+ price range too. Carbines bring more sometime, but are not often found in mint state. If that is not premium, tell me what is? Sure, they are not in the league with M1873’s and M1886’s, but most of the time it is harder to find a nice M1892 rifle in 44-40. The M1892 has its share of fakes too. Big Larry
March 23, 2007
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Some real nice 1892s coming up at JDJ in October, be interesting to see how they do.
As I noted in another thread, 1892s up here (Canada) are hard to find, especially of condition, you just don’t see them.
Matt
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