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Highest model 94 Serial number?
January 8, 2014
11:47 am
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I was hoping someone might have the final production numbers and highest serial number applied to an model 94 made on Winchester Ave in New Haven Ct. by USRACo. I have a 94 legacy blued octagon 38-55 which was USRACo. sample/test rifle which was bought in 2006 out of the factory test lab S/N# 658XXXX. I investigated further and Winchester(Utah) confirmed it is a 2006 number, but could not give me the final number of Model 94s made before it was all over. I have read that the records were sent to BATF but that was 2006 and its now 2014.
Secondly what are the numbers of the Japan built Model 94s, did they start with #1 or a continuation of the Connecticut made 94s?

January 8, 2014
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The highest serial number I have seen is 6582881.

Personally, I doubt that we will ever gain access to anything that was sent to the BATF.

I have no idea what the serial numbers on the Browning (Miroku) Model 94s are, but I sincerely doubt that they were a continuation of the USRACo made Model 94 serial numbers (if I were a betting man).

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January 8, 2014
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Thanks for the reply Bert. Just seems ridiculous that nothing on the 94 since 1982 is available.
My 94 legacy is #6582894 real close to the one you mentioned I would say.
Nice rifle Its stands at one end of the rack my 1894 #200505 ( a 1903 per Cody or a 1900 according to WRA Website ) stands at the other end, of course there are a few other years in-between.

January 8, 2014
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Your M94 Legacy is now the highest serial number that I am aware of.

Serial 200505 is a December 1903 production gun.

I am not 100% sure who you are referring to by “WRA Website”, but if it is this website – http://www.winchesterguns.com/customerservice/qna/detail.asp?id=296
they are not truly “WINCHESTER“. Instead, they are the Winchester division of the Browning Arms Company, which is wholly owned by FN (Fabrique Nationale). The are licensed by the Olin Corporation to use the trade marked “WINCHESTER” name. The DOM information they have listed on their website is for the most part a line for line regurgitation of the flawed information published by George Madis decades ago.

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January 8, 2014
7:20 pm
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Thanks Burt, Yes I was referencing the "Browning" website. Winchester Division of Browning firearms (TG Bennett must be turning over in his grave) but yes their reference PDF.
http://www.winchesterguns.com/customerservice/qna/detail.asp?id=296
Any Idea why the 3 year discrepancy between their numbers and the Cody
numbers (who with their ledger records convinced me?)
My 94 legacy is an odd duck compared to others I have seen at shows in the Northeast and also online, no checkering on the stock or forend. It was pure chance that this rifle was spotted in the lab and sold back in those last days in early 2006.

January 8, 2014
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All I can tell you, is that the CFM has the original Winchester warehouse ledger records, and the Polishing Room (PR) Serialization records. George Madis was completely unaware of the PR records. The PR record dates slightly precede the warehouse ledger dates.

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January 8, 2014
10:13 pm
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Thank you for your information Burt.

January 23, 2014
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Bert H. said
The highest serial number I have seen is 6582881.

Personally, I doubt that we will ever gain access to anything that was sent to the BATF.

I have no idea what the serial numbers on the Browning (Miroku) Model 94s are, but I sincerely doubt that they were a continuation of the USRACo made Model 94 serial numbers (if I were a betting man).

Bert

I bought a 44 mag trapper new in 2006 my sn is 6563090

January 25, 2015
4:26 am
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Mine is 6583660

January 25, 2015
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commander45 said

Mine is 6583660

What caliber and variation is it?

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January 25, 2015
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Interesting stuff. My Rifle  94 legacy  #6582894 was actually purchased in early 2006 from the USRA factory in New Haven after production stopped. It was assembled as a test rifle for the ammunition lab.  More than likely they just picked a receiver out of the last batch and assembled it. I is a no frills rifle with no checkering. I wish there were some available records out there to show production figures at the end. Browning will only confirm it is a 2006 rifle.

What’s interesting is 6582894 never left the factory. until the end. There still maybe others but

there were none left when it left.

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February 22, 2015
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Sorry it took me so  long to reply .

It is in 38-55 , full octagon bbl , color case hardened reciever

It was one of three sent to McMillan fiberglass stocks that were received on april 5th 2006.

The shipping date on the invoice is 31 march 2006.

Of the three rifles two of them have serial numbers lower than mine by a few hundred but both of them are less than one hundred apart.

February 22, 2015
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commander45 said

Sorry it took me so  long to reply .

It is in 38-55 , full octagon bbl , color case hardened reciever

It was one of three sent to McMillan fiberglass stocks that were received on april 5th 2006.

The shipping date on the invoice is 31 march 2006.

Of the three rifles two of them have serial numbers lower than mine by a few hundred but both of them are less than one hundred apart.

That has to definitely be one of the last Model 94s shipped by the USRACo.

 

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February 24, 2016
7:44 pm
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anyone tell me what year my Legacy 94ae 30-30 was made ? serial no . 6168924 . A friend won it as a door prize in the early 1990s . I have the box and papers . it sold for 309.99 ,has never been loaded or fired ,its in new condition . any info will be great . thanks

March 3, 2016
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6589550 😉 Trapper in .357 Mag, large loop.

March 3, 2016
4:57 am
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Jason said

6589550 😉 Trapper in .357 Mag, large loop.

That is a high number! Can you post a picture of the Serial Number ?

March 22, 2016
7:17 pm
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It’s real 😉 I’m pretty sure it is from the very final run. I actually called the factory before it closed to order a “final run 94” for both my son and myself. I spoke to a very nice lady there who told me she would see what she could do. She told me that some of the workers were “having fun” with the final 94’s…hence the 357 caliber, in Trapper config., with the large loop. My son’s (disappointingly) is not “final run” – it’s maybe a month or two out…mine however (the large loop) I’m pretty sure is one of the very last one’s made. I suspect the employees and/or management actually have “the very last one/s”, but my Trapper is pretty damn close to the end!

April 10, 2016
3:41 am
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Hi, My 44 Mag is serial number 6515994. Do yo think this is 2005?

 

Brian

April 10, 2016
6:22 am
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Brian,

It could be 2004 or 2005. You will need to call the number listed here – http://www.winchesterguns.com/support/contact.html

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April 10, 2016
7:23 pm
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 Hello Folks,  I’ve been attempting to determine the approximate date of manufacture of my late production Winchester ( USRA ) Model 94 ( AE, of course ) Trapper Carbine, serial # 61734XX ? It’s in .44 Magnum, with all the usual Trapper variant features, 16″ bbl, walnut wood, blued finish, cross-bolt safety, standard size loop, saddle ring, rcvr  d & t. If anyone has an idea as to when this little beauty was mfg’d, I would deeply appreciate hearing from them. I’ve always assumed that it was one of the very late production units, circa 2003 – 2004 or so. However, as new information becomes available I’ve begun to reconsider my initial assumption. Unfortunately, there is no concrete data concerning the final years of Win. / USRA’s serial numbers. This is very sad, as I’m certain that there’s a good number of Model 94 owners & collectors who would just love to determine exactly what year their Winchester’s were produced. On a related issue, has anyone here, or in the Win. collecting community ever attempted to compile & document all the factory paperwork received along with the rifles ? Perhaps by documenting everything from owner manuals, hang tags, box labels, invoices, related to some of the late mfg. 94’s it just might be possible to utilize all this data to at least estimate a mfg date ? The same could go for the late model features, such as C/B to tang safety transition range, etc. And, at a last, probably unlikely to happen venture, has anyone ever tried to petition the ATF to release the late USRA serial # / production records under the FOIA ?    ( Well, it’s just a thought ? ) With ever so much detailed collector reference currently out there, it’s hard to believe that there’s no detailed data regarding the last 10 or so years of one of the most iconic firearms in American history. OK, I done now ! If anyone could provide me with an idea of when my M94 was produced, I’d be very much appreciative. THANKS

 

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