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Getting guns shipped to USA from Canada
April 9, 2013
2:28 pm
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If anyone has had recent experience getting C&R or older guns from Canada, I would appreciate hearing how to do it. I have a C&R, and maybe that will make it easier. Post or PM would be good. Thanks!

April 9, 2013
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Pday,

Matt74 should be able to help you.

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April 9, 2013
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Sorry guys, I can't be of too much help. I have brought several old Winchesters up to Canada from the US the last couple years, but not the other way around. I know there is some paperwork and bit of time involved, but I don't know the specifics. Seems to me someone asked the same question not too long ago on here, maybe search for that thread. I believe some answers were provided. If I recall, 94 Shorties posted it and if I recall, he made some inquiries and got some answers. Maybe he will chime in.
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April 9, 2013
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I think you need an import permit. The BATF website might have that info under their FAQ's.

April 10, 2013
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In the past I have never had problems getting antique Winchesters in from Canada. Now, the other way around has been a royal PITA, even when all the paper work is correct.

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April 11, 2013
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Shipping antique Winchesters to the USA: I've shipped antique Winchesters into the USA with no problem at all. I simply inclose a note showing verifying the date of the rifle, a photocopy of Madis' date for that serial number, and a web URL.

Bringing antique firearms into Canada: I've brought six or seven into Canada with no problem at all. I simply present verification of its antique status and its done. Where problems can come up is in two areas. First, the only way to ship firearms in Canada is through our postal system. They are used to handling tens of thousands of firearms through the mail each year. We ship them direct to each other, no FFL dealer required in Canada. Two problems can occur on the US side of the border. a) someone in the USPS who doesn't know the rules, declines to ship to Canada and returns the item b) the gun is shipped by courier up to Canada and hits a dead end, because Canadian couriers do not ship firearms, only the Canadian Postal service. It is then returned.

Shipping non-antiques into Canada: no problem with Canadian customs, but the USA requires an export permit. I've had a couple non-antique guns shipped into Canada from the USA or brought them across the border myself, and everything went smooth as usual but I did have someone down there get the US export permit

Shipping non-antiques from Canada to the USA: I have not done this. There is no problem from Canada's perspective and no Canadian permits are needed. It appears, however, that the USA requires an import permit as per the thread linked to in one of the above posts.

Summary: Overall, once one knows the ropes, there doesn't seem to be a problem either way (provided some postal worker who doesn't know the law doesn't throw a monkey wrench in the works). Canada does not require an import or an export permit for ordinary, non-restricted firearms and firearms can be shipped directly to the customer provided they are shipped via the postal service. The USA seems to have more restrictions when it comes to importing and exporting, requiring permits for either case except in the case of antique firearms, where no permits are needed either way.

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Well I will agree, when shipping to Canada, all the problems I've experienced have been on the US (friendly) side.

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Shipping antique Winchesters to the USA: I've shipped antique Winchesters into the USA with no problem at all. I simply inclose a note showing verifying the date of the rifle, a photocopy of Madis' date for that serial number, and a web URL.

Bringing antique firearms into Canada: I've brought six or seven into Canada with no problem at all. I simply present verification of its antique status and its done. Where problems can come up is in two areas. First, the only way to ship firearms in Canada is through our postal system. They are used to handling tens of thousands of firearms through the mail each year. We ship them direct to each other, no FFL dealer required in Canada. Two problems can occur on the US side of the border. a) someone in the USPS who doesn't know the rules, declines to ship to Canada and returns the item b) the gun is shipped by courier up to Canada and hits a dead end, because Canadian couriers do not ship firearms, only the Canadian Postal service. It is then returned.

Shipping non-antiques into Canada: no problem with Canadian customs, but the USA requires an export permit. I've had a couple non-antique guns shipped into Canada from the USA or brought them across the border myself, and everything went smooth as usual but I did have someone down there get the US export permit

Shipping non-antiques from Canada to the USA: I have not done this. There is no problem from Canada's perspective and no Canadian permits are needed. It appears, however, that the USA requires an import permit as per the thread linked to in one of the above posts.

Summary: Overall, once one knows the ropes, there doesn't seem to be a problem either way (provided some postal worker who doesn't know the law doesn't throw a monkey wrench in the works). Canada does not require an import or an export permit for ordinary, non-restricted firearms and firearms can be shipped directly to the customer provided they are shipped via the postal service. The USA seems to have more restrictions when it comes to importing and exporting, requiring permits for either case except in the case of antique firearms, where no permits are needed either way.

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Win38-55 I am supprised that you are getting away with using the
Madis dates ???? I would think this would cause problems.

April 23, 2013
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In my case, the Winchesters had dates much earlier than the 1899 cut off. The 'newest' one was an Model 1892 with a Madis date of 1893.

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