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I’ve recently acquired a set of (4) 66/73 cleaning rods that I was assured were removed from and original to a 1873 rifle.
I also just purchased a 1873 SRC that’s in nice condition (especially for a carbine) and original. The (3) piece cleaning set came with the SRC and I’m told it’s original.
So my question is are either or perhaps both sets correct for 1873s? I’ve read that rifle and carbine cleaning rod sets are the same except rifles had (4) pieces and carbines have (3). I’ve also been told that rifle and carbine sets are different which the below would suggust. Also notice the the brass knobs are shaped slightly different. Both rods are the same diameter.
In each photo the SRC rod is on top:
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
Kevin,
The carbine sets are made longer so you only need 3. You can’t put a carbine set in a rifle butt, they will stick out. The rifles and musket sets are shorter.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
Thanks Bob!
Any opinions as to if the above two cleaning rod sets are originals.
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
Kevin,
Most of the repo rods were made with the wrong size rods. The correct size rods is about .243″. The loop end slot on the repos were milled where the real ones were stamped out. Quite a few years ago someone made a run of repo rods that were perfect and with some artificial aging you couldn’t tell, they sold for $30 – $40 if I remember right. At that point I quite getting excited about cleaning rods.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
Kevin,
What is the diameter of the shaft? The ends of the rods look like they are not “punched” to me. Bob ( 1873 man ) will know what you want.
Walter
Bob,
I think the rods I have are probably from the “correct” ones from years ago. I have seen repos with a proof mark on top of the brass tip!! The repos have destroyed the rod market.
Walter
Walter,
I typoed the rod size, they should be about .234″. The junk repos were made from commonly available 1/4″ rod. As far as the proof marked ones, I haven’t seen on in person.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
Just curious, as the below style are not typical of other 1873 cleaning rods I have seen. Are these correct?
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
Kevin,
Those are not Winchester rods. The ones for a Carbine look just like a rifle set except they are a little longer so you only need 3.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
Kevin,
You have cleaning rods for the M-16 pictured. Are you having some fun with us?
Tim Tomlinson
Well you know that gun has a high capacity magazine so in some circles it could be a assault rifle.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
tim tomlinson said
Kevin,You have cleaning rods for the M-16 pictured. Are you having some fun with us?
Tim Tomlinson
1873man said
Well you know that gun has a high capacity magazine so in some circles it could be a assault rifle.Bob
Funny Bob!
Here’s where I saw them, interesting hum?
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
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