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.50 Eley sold over estimate at RIA
May 18, 2021
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I suppose a person shouldn’t be surprised – it was a .50 Eley after all.  I was interested in how this one would do given it letters as a .45 Eley.  I wondered if that aspect would be of much impact.  Apparently not.  By the way, how many here are on-board with the ledger being in error?

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/82/29/winchester-model-1885-high-wall-50-eley-express-rifle

May 18, 2021
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steve004 said
I suppose a person shouldn’t be surprised… 

The surprise will be–if it ever happens–when something sells for no more than than the high estimate.  Has it ever happened within the last 20 yrs?

May 18, 2021
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I’m probably wrong but my uneducated guess is that if the letter had indicated .50 Eley the price would have gone much higher. I have no opinion on whether the ledger is in error but if I was to hazard a guess I’d say it was accurate.

 

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steve004 said
I suppose a person shouldn’t be surprised – it was a .50 Eley after all.  I was interested in how this one would do given it letters as a .45 Eley.  I wondered if that aspect would be of much impact.  Apparently not.  By the way, how many here are on-board with the ledger being in error?

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/82/29/winchester-model-1885-high-wall-50-eley-express-rifle  

The ledger is not in error.  Take note of the fact that only the barrel has a proof mark stamped on it… that is not the original barrel, and it was not reworked by Winchester.  

Somebody apparently has too much faith in the hype that RIA writes in their auction listings.

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May 18, 2021
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Bert H. said

Somebody apparently has too much faith in the hype that RIA writes in their auction listings.

Bert  

Hype that will in the future be used to authenticate the gun, like the ’86 supposedly ordered by TR for his African safari, or the fake ’03 snipers they’ve sold.  Previous sale by a prominent auction house, where a gun was inspected & approved by “experts,” is regarded by many as indisputable provenance.

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clarence said

Hype that will in the future be used to authenticate the gun, like the ’86 supposedly ordered by TR for his African safari, or the fake ’03 snipers they’ve sold.  Previous sale by a prominent auction house, where a gun was inspected & approved by “experts,” is regarded by many as indisputable provenance.  

Clarence,

I had three different potential bidders/buyers contact me about that very rifle before the auction. I sincerely doubt that there are very many future buyers of that rifle that will believe the garbage information (hype) that RIA’s so called “experts” have to say about it.  It will undoubtedly show up for sale on Gunbroker or Guns International soon, and I will undoubtedly be contacted by other potential buyers.  Nearly all of the serious Single Shot collectors have my contact information and know when to ask questions.

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Bert H. said

Clarence,

I had three different potential bidders/buyers contact me about that very rifle before the auction. I sincerely doubt that there are very many future buyers of that rifle that will believe the garbage information (hype) that RIA’s so called “experts” have to say about it.  It will undoubtedly show up for sale on Gunbroker or Guns International soon, and I will undoubtedly be contacted by other potential buyers.  Nearly all of the serious Single Shot collectors have my contact information and know when to ask questions.  

Bert – very interesting information.  Thanks 

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