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Hello all,

I am new to the forum but have collected for many years. Only recently have I gotten interested in Winchester lever actions.

I have an opportunity to acquire a 4 digit 5XXX rifle. 

I could tell from condition the barrel was likely a replacement since the receiver is silvered with probably 20% of original finish, but the barrel still retains most of the blue.  The bore was also in better shape than I’d expect for a 129 year old 38-55.  The barrel’s bluing and the bore are worn, so I believe the replacement happened a long time ago, or an older barrel closer to period that was in better shape was used in the replacement. The caliber marking is on the left flat near the receiver, which is the other clue it’s a replacement.  Overall it doesn’t look that far out of character for the rifle.  

Wood is in good shape with the usual dings but no cracks. 

Front AND rear sight are old Marbles, but it also has an old fold down Marbles tang sight.  I suspect the replacement barrel already had a rear sight mounted, and rather than remove it, they left the three sights there.

It was inherited by someone who I think knows little about it, so it isn’t being advertised as anything special.  If I can find a box of 38-55 i will try it out.

I think from reading that if it were the original barrel it would fetch in the ballpark of 3K?   Just guessing, I’d think about half that amount would be fair, however, I don’t know enough about 1894’s to know what’s fair with the replacement barrel. I don’t have pics, but assuming it’s a solid rifle in decent shooting shape, am I far off on the actual value?

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Is it a First or a Second variation Model 1894? Solid Frame or Take Down?  Is the barrel marked with the August 21, 1894 patent date?

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Hello Bert,

It took some searching to figure out what makes it a 1st or 2nd variation.  From the pics, I think this is a first?  In any case, it’s solid frame.

Barrel marked as shown with August 21, 1894. However, as I mentioned, the caliber marking is on the left side barrel flat.

End of barrel is not blued and looks like it has a bit of a crown.

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It is a First variation Model 1894, but the barrel on it is positively not original to that rifle.  The barrel is a replacement that is at least 12-years newer than the rest of the rifle.  The attached picture below shows the correct style marking that Winchester roll marked on the First variation barrels.

What is the complete serial number on this rifle?

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In that one pic, it also looks like the mag tube extends a hair beyond the muzzle also…

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Jeremy P said
In that one pic, it also looks like the mag tube extends a hair beyond the muzzle also…

  

Probably OK, looks like it’s not installed correctly. 

 

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