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30-40 Krag and John Plute Bull
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I was over in Crested Butte today and stopped in the visitor’s center. They had the John Plute Bull, which stood as the world record for nearly a century. I’ve known about the bull and the story for a long time. Killed in Dark Canyon, 1899, with a 30-40 Krag. The rack was used to pay off a bar tab. Etc.

Well, I always thought that was a round (30-40) and rifle manufacturer (Krag), not just a round. And I envisioned some ugly European thing. Today I found out it is a round and the rifle that killed the bull was a Winchester 95. Thought I’d share some pictures with you. Be cool to get a Cody Letter on it but they didn’t have one. They did have pictures of Plute holding the rifle with some other guys standing around and some deer. He was a meat hunter.

A Win 95 used in 1899 by a guy who couldn’t pay his bar tab? I’d have thought he would have had an old fashioned 73 or something. Must have been riding high when he got it and then fell on hard times?

The elk is now number two, I think. It’s MASSIVE!

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Thanks or taking the time to get the pictures and post them, along with the story.  Neat stuff.  

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Huck Riley said 

Well, I always thought that was a round (30-40) and rifle manufacturer (Krag), not just a round.
 
 
 
   

If the bullet was fired by a ’95, it was not a .30-40; it was a .30 US !

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The 30 US is a 30-40 Krag.

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Rob Kassab said
The 30 US is a 30-40 Krag.  

It never fails, I mean, never.  Make the simplest little joke on any internet forum and you’ll immediately find out how many don’t get it.

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clarence said

If the bullet was fired by a ’95, it was not a .30-40; it was a .30 US !  

Clarence,

Just to stir the pot a bit further, it might not have been a “30 U.S.” … it could have been a “.30 ARMY” !!

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But then again, it might have been a “.30 Gov’t ’06″…………

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Rick Hill said
But then again, it might have been a “.30 Gov’t ’06″…………

Rick  

But then it would be a different cartridge!  (And a hard-kicking bastard in anything with a crescent plate.)

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Bert H. said

Clarence,

Just to stir the pot a bit further, it might not have been a “30 U.S.” … it could have been a “.30 ARMY” !!

Bert  

My only ’95 has the 30 US marking, also my HW.  But if I had my choice, I’d prefer 30 ARMY.

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You guys are all so confused!  Just pick-up a copy of my ’95 book when it comes out next year!  Cool

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Good stuff!  Wasn’t to sure about Krag. What did he patent?   Nice work Huck!

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