1894 Winchester-help in buying |Winchester Rifles|Forum|Winchester Collector

Bert H. said
The serial number is 88179 and that identifies it as a February 1898 production Model 1892.
Bert
  

Thank you Sir for your answer.The serial number in 88199,not 88179 if my eyes see correctly.What do you think about the rifles,looking on the photos?Thank you,

Marcin

Jeremy P said
Those vice marks hurt my soul but I wonder if an original owner did that or someone who only viewed it as a utility tool with no cares for it…..I’m going to tell myself that at least. I think Bubba would’ve been kinder! 
Still like the rifle….how is the Winchester market in Poland??? How plentiful are your rifle choices there?
  

Hello Sir.Thank you for your answer.As for the Winchester market,if you ask for old guns and rifles…not really.I found only one shop which is really into historical arms,this one which I posted photos from.But there are few competitions, where people are shooting lever-action rifles(but probably new versions).And for new guns,I must admit I don’t know.In Poland Winchester is usually used for hunting,the same as Browning.These are top companies, first-choice for hunters. Winchester is also well-known for pump-action shotguns,really nice.

As for other guns,like long range shooting,or AR platform, the market in Poland is becoming really big.Especially after Ukraine war. In Poland the police issues gun licence or firearm permit,and it’s growing really fast. Last year police issued over 50k firearm permits.I know it’s a drop comparing to US,but we are a small country.So I’m happy with this guns’ popularity in recent years.🙂

MidwestCrisis said

mn79 said

TXGunNut said
Bore looks better than I’d expect for this rifle, I’d want to look into the breech to see if it has been relined. Can’t tell from the muzzle face. Shame about the vise damage, nice looking rifle.
 
Mike
  

Thank you Sir for your answer.I really appreciate it.🙂
  

Tex,   I thought this picture looked like it was lined. Looks like a definite edge just inside the bore
  

Thank you Sir for your answer 

twobit said
Pozdrowienia z Houston w Teksasie.
Rodzice mojego ojca wyemigrowali z Polski w 1911 roku.
Od 13 lat prowadzę badania nad karabinem modelu 1892 i skatalogowałem już nieco ponad 22 100 egzemplarzy tej broni. Co ciekawe, karabin, o który Pan pyta, widziałem już wcześniej – w 2016 roku – gdy był wystawiony na sprzedaż tutaj, w Stanach Zjednoczonych, w stanie Maine. W tamtym czasie posiadał on oryginalną kolbę typu karabinowego, taką jak ta widoczna na załączonym zdjęciu. Poza tym elementem karabin jest zgodny ze swoim zakresem numerów seryjnych i znajduje się w dość dobrym stanie.
Tutaj, w USA, karabin ten prawdopodobnie sprzedałby się za około 1100 dolarów. Nieoryginalna kolba stanowi zdecydowany mankament w oczach poważnych kolekcjonerów, jednak wciąż znajdzie się wielu ludzi, którzy byliby zainteresowani jego nabyciem. Mam nadzieję, że te informacje okażą się pomocne.
 
Hello from Houston, Texas.
My father’s parents immigrated from Poland in 1911.
I have been working on a research survey of the model 1892 rifle for 13 years now and have cataloged just over 22,00 individual rifles. It is very interesting that I have previously seen the rifle that you are asking about in 2016 and it was for sale here in the U. S. in the state of Maine. At that time it had a correct rifle style butt stock as shown in the attached image. Beyond that, the rifle is correct for the serial number range and is in fairly good condition.
Here in the U.S. the rifle would probably sell for around $1100. The non original butt stock is a definite detraction for serious collectors but there are many people who would still be interested in it. I hope this helps.
Michael

  

Oh Hello form Poland (Witam z Polski)! 

Thank you for your answer Sir. That’s very interesting history about this rifle.Well,current price in Poland is ~$3,5k. From what you said,it’s not 100% original,but it’s one of the nicest rifles which I’ve seen in Poland recently.I’m really thinking of buying it. I’m no expert in this field,and just the beginner.That’s why I asked about rifle in this forum.I also know that for you it maybe not very sought after,since it’s not super original,but when I saw it my heart speed up🙃

Also wondering if I could shoot this rifle with modern ammunition?Could you please recommend any?The one which wouldn’t destroy this rifle.

Thank you so very much.

P.S.Serdecznie pozdrawiam Pana z Polski.Niech żyją Stany Zjednoczone Ameryki!

twobit said
I would argue, very nicely of course, that the bore has not been relined.  Here are several examples of clearly relined Model  1892 barrels.  The insert is very clearly visible.

Michael
  

Could you please explain?If I understand you correctly,this barrel wasn’t relined,right?Is it good or not?Thank you.