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1894 Winchester 30-30 from 1918
January 13, 2021
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13609.jpgImage Enlarger13606.jpegImage Enlarger13603.jpegImage EnlargerHi!

I found this odd 1894 Winchester 30-30 rifle (1918) listed locally for sale and wondered if it was original or if someone made this combination?

It has a 20" octagon barrel with a sporting butt stock with the checkered wood.  The deluxe checkering on the butt stock seems a bit different in angle than the checkering found on the traditional pistol stock.   I haven't been able to locate a picture of one like this anywhere on the internet.

The barrel end seems a bit flat to me like it might have been cut.  Like very little to no beveling.

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Any help in it identification is greatly appreciated!

Thanks for your input,

Gene

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January 13, 2021
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From the pics provided , the gun has been definetly put together, or at least altered, but I can't tell what has been changed other than the checkering. Closeups of the muzzle, but stock fit etc. would be helpful

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January 13, 2021
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Thanks Henry!

I'm trying to obtain additional pictures that you requested.  If/once I recieve them, I'd be glad to post them up for viewing.

Thanks again.

January 13, 2021
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Gene,

Several things to check;

1. Measure the distance from the muzzle face to the front sight dovetail cut.

2. Measure the distance from the muzzle face to the magazine tube retaining ring pin

3. Please include the serial number, and a clear picture(s) of the address marking on the barrel.

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January 13, 2021
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Bert,

 

Appricate your reply and expertise.  

If I'm able to acquire this information, I'll post it asap.

I contacted the seller and he didn't have access to the rifle at the moment.

 

Have a great day!

January 13, 2021
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All,

More pics attached.

 

Measurement to question  #1 appears to be 5/16 according to the seller.imagejpeg_0.jpgImage Enlargerimagejpeg_0-1.jpgImage Enlargerimagejpeg_0-2.jpgImage Enlargeroutput.jpgImage Enlargeroutput-1.jpgImage Enlarger

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Answer to question #2:    3 13/16" to retaining pin from muzzle

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More info.

Question #3:  779,459

 

Front sight DW King JR  Pat March 5 07

January 13, 2021
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The barrel and magazine tube have both positively been cut (shortened) after the fact.  The checkering on the stocks is not factory work.

The correct date of manufacture is June 1915.

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Bert,

I greatly appreciate your expert knowledge and willingness to share your time / information with the fellow forum members.

Have a great week!

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emcb454@gmail.com said
Bert,

I greatly appreciate your expert knowledge and willingness to share your time / information with the fellow forum members.

Have a great week!  

Gene,

You are welcome, and it is always my pleasure to be of assistance to the membership.

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It almost looks sleeved?

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Those circular marks are tool marks on the muzzle from when it was cut or dressed.

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